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    Quote Originally Posted by rbazo View Post
    Hey guys,

    I'm really frustrated with Square Enix and their neglect towards players who are distant from the data centers. It's making it impossible for us to complete the new ultimate challenges in Final Fantasy XIV. And this is going on for as long as the game exists.

    We play with intense lag, it completely impairs our ability to compete in these trials. It's just not fair that players who are closer to the data centers get to have an advantage over us.

    And let's be real, this is one of the main reasons why some players resort to using mods and hacks. The lag makes it so it's impossible to compete otherwise. It's not fair for such a large community, such as it exists in South America and several other places, who are just as passionate about the game as anyone else. We deserve to have an equal playing field and be able to complete these challenges without this issue.

    It is fairly safe to assume that this benefits not only current players but will impact attracting new others too. So, Squeenix, how about place some other data centers and give us a fair shot at these trials, how about treat your main game as it should be treated?
    Square Enix isn't like Blizzard. They don't have billions of dollars to spend on this game. It's a much smaller company and they can't afford to do NA East and NA West like many other games have. Sorry, but we're on a shoestring budget and it's all we can get. On the flip side, Square Enix won't do anything about plugins (they can't afford to) so you can use NoClippy without any risk of repercussion. That should fix your lag issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Square Enix isn't like Blizzard. They don't have billions of dollars to spend on this game. It's a much smaller company and they can't afford to do NA East and NA West like many other games have. Sorry, but we're on a shoestring budget and it's all we can get. On the flip side, Square Enix won't do anything about plugins (they can't afford to) so you can use NoClippy without any risk of repercussion. That should fix your lag issue.
    hate to point it out to you...

    but even your heroic Blizzard never had South American servers. why? its not cost effective to set up for the number of players plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    hate to point it out to you...

    but even your heroic Blizzard never had South American servers. why? its not cost effective to set up for the number of players plain and simple.
    Well Blizzard is a US company... so they think only the US is America. Canada, Mexico, Central America, and South America are cryptids to them like Bigfoot, Mothman, Jersy Devil, Nessie, etc... :P lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    hate to point it out to you...

    but even your heroic Blizzard never had South American servers. why? its not cost effective to set up for the number of players plain and simple.
    But Blizzard does have SA servers??

    Edit to clarify, they don't have servers for WoW because of the infrastructure required. But their other games definitely have SA servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    But Blizzard does have LA servers??

    Edit to clarify, they don't have servers for WoW because of the infrastructure required. But their other games definitely have LA servers.
    Well Blizzard HQ I think was in Irvine, CA which basically puts it in Los Angeles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Well Blizzard HQ I think was in Irvine, CA which basically puts it in Los Angeles.
    Sorry, I'll edit to say Latin America, lol.
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    all i want is an NA east data center. that's all. i don't know who was asking for an OCE one because the OCE people i knew had no interest in leaving (the only ones i know who have are ones that are southeast asian), they all told me that they grew accustomed to playing at high ping
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    all i want is an NA east data center. that's all. i don't know who was asking for an OCE one because the OCE people i knew had no interest in leaving (the only ones i know who have are ones that are southeast asian), they all told me that they grew accustomed to playing at high ping

    It used to be a fairly common request here on the forums. And they had a fan event the devs went to in Australia where they experienced it themselves.



    Those posts have obviously died off now, and I'm sure the DC didn't fill up as expected from all the buzz the topic used to draw.



    This is likely one of those catch-22s. SE is terrible if they don't add them, but if they do and no one switches, we'll, what was the point. Data centers cost a ton of money (not just buildings, servers, networking, etc.). My job is supporting DC infrastructure, and builds of a few dozen servers cost in the millions.



    It's not as cheap as people seem to think it is, and that's capital expenses, which companies are loath to spend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    all i want is an NA east data center. that's all. i don't know who was asking for an OCE one because the OCE people i knew had no interest in leaving (the only ones i know who have are ones that are southeast asian), they all told me that they grew accustomed to playing at high ping
    The Japanese wanted it so we'd get off Tonberry. That's 100% the motivation behind OCE. Unfortunately, SE listened to them that it was the "Australians" that was the issue when really the biggest English community there is SEA.

    Who ping higher to Aus.

    So they didn't move.
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    Last edited by Rockette; 02-02-2023 at 04:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    The Japanese wanted it so we'd get off Tonberry. That's 100% the motivation behind OCE. Unfortunately, SE listened to them that it was the "Australians" that was the issue when really the biggest English community there is SEA.

    Who ping higher to Aus.

    So they didn't move.
    Yep. As an Indian I ping around ~70-80 ms on Singaporean servers for example, like PoE or Steam download servers. Australia connections though, ping worse for me than even NA or JP.
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