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  1. #61
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    MsQi's Avatar
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Are there prizes from the maze event? I haven't done it yet, but the opposite-gender outfits are straight purchases with gil once you complete the quest, so I assume the maze is purely for fun rather than enforced.
    I know I didn't get anything. I think it's just for fun this year.
    (1)
    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuC365vjzBFmvbu6M7dB80A

  2. #62
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    Yencat's Avatar
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NellMoshroca View Post
    Why can't they just save the dev time, cut out the dresses entirely, and focus on making making the sexy suit wearable by both genders?
    No thanks, I prefer the dress.

    It's unfortunate people have to wait to wear the version of the outfit they prefer (especially considering the story of the event this year) but I'd rather have 2 sets to play with in the end than just getting 1.
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  3. #63
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    Carin-Eri's Avatar
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    Carin Eri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I'm still stuck here thinking how someone can think yet another event where you just talk to someone on the stage at Old Gridiania is "great"
    Okay... but it has to be a 'starter' city due to the event being open to players from level 15+

    And to be honest, other than some players perhaps finding the location predictable, what reason do they really have to put time and effort into moving it elsewhere? What would be the benefit?
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  4. #64
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    Avoidy's Avatar
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I'm still stuck here thinking how someone can think yet another event where you just talk to someone on the stage at Old Gridiania is "great"
    So many seasonal events are just us running around town convincing npcs to join the seasonal event. It's so tiresome. I like the cosmetic rewards, but calling this thing an event is such a stretch compared to how other mmos handle seasonal events and turn them into ongoing things to incentivize people to actually log in and play together. The developers seem terrified of creating content that people feel... compelled to do? Like, there's this constant sense that the lack of a push to do anything is somehow good. I'll admit that some games treat their players like rats in a maze, and that's just one bad end of the spectrum; but ff14 is on the other side of the spectrum where it doesn't offer enough, especially during the lengthy 4-month downtime periods. An event that you complete in like 15 minutes isn't an event lol. It's a singular quest. Imagine more events along the lines of the moogle tomestone events, only you give way more rewards so people are actually running it for longer than 3 days, and you add some current content into the mix as well so everyone's roulettes aren't just arr/hw for the next month. I could see some people disliking this because they'll feel compelled to participate if they want to get everything. A lot of people hate the feeling of missing out and feeling "forced" to do something. I get that tbh, but I don't think the current setup is good at all because a bunch of people are always quitting for months at a time and it makes the game feel like shit to play.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 02-02-2023 at 07:50 PM.

  5. #65
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    Ayche's Avatar
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    Aychelle Tripler
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    Raiden
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I am going to assume they ran into some weird fitting issue with the chest piece and left them gender-locked.
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  6. #66
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayche View Post
    I am going to assume they ran into some weird fitting issue with the chest piece and left them gender-locked.
    imo they ran into fitting issues regardless. I don't have a pic on hand but ask a male au ra to put on the new item. it gives them the curviest waist in the world, even curvier than some females lol
    and then on non-lalafell female races, the dress looks... idk, it's hard to describe. on lalafell it looks pretty good, but on "tall" females it looks like it's almost too small? like the actual dress part comes up just a bit too high in a weird way. and when you sit down, it doesn't bend at all; it just flairs open and lets people see right up to your stomach if you wear any other bottoms with it. and the shoulders look strange to me from the back. the hands clip through the dress too, which was a problem with the previous val dress as well. it just felt off; i was excited for it initially, but in the end i didn't assign it to a glam plate because it just looked poorly fitted and low quality in a lot of ways beyond the outer appearance. The actual appearance of the object is great, but running around in it and using it, for me at least, felt pretty bad. loads of other people obviously love it though lol so i'm not like, pretending to represent everyone. just saying that even without the gender neutral element, they clearly weren't able to nail everything. which is a bummer.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 02-02-2023 at 07:58 PM. Reason: tried to elaborate more.

  7. #67
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    Iyrnthota's Avatar
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    Iyrnthota Sparrow
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    Spriggan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    imo they ran into fitting issues regardless. I don't have a pic on hand but ask a male au ra to put on the new item. it gives them the curviest waist in the world, even curvier than some females lol
    and then on non-lalafell female races, the dress looks... idk, it's hard to describe. on lalafell it looks pretty good, but on "tall" females it looks like it's almost too small? and the shoulders look strange to me from the back. it just felt off; i was excited for it, but in the end i didn't assign it to a glam plate because it just looked poorly fitted in a way that I can't describe. but i could see it every time i wore the thing. the hands clip through the dress too, which was a problem with the previous val dress as well.
    I tried it on with my FemRoe and it looks like I'm wearing a full length children's dress.
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  8. #68
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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Maduin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    So many seasonal events are just us running around town convincing npcs to join the seasonal event. It's so tiresome. I like the cosmetic rewards, but calling this thing an event is such a stretch compared to how other mmos handle seasonal events and turn them into ongoing things to incentivize people to actually log in and play together. The developers seem terrified of creating content that people feel... compelled to do? Like, there's this constant sense that the lack of a push to do anything is somehow good. I'll admit that some games treat their players like rats in a maze, and that's just one bad end of the spectrum; but ff14 is on the other side of the spectrum where it doesn't offer enough, especially during the lengthy 4-month downtime periods. An event that you complete in like 15 minutes isn't an event lol. It's a singular quest. Imagine more events along the lines of the moogle tomestone events, only you give way more rewards so people are actually running it for longer than 3 days, and you add some current content into the mix as well so everyone's roulettes aren't just arr/hw for the next month. I could see some people disliking this because they'll feel compelled to participate if they want to get everything. A lot of people hate the feeling of missing out and feeling "forced" to do something. I get that tbh, but I don't think the current setup is good at all because a bunch of people are always quitting for months at a time and it makes the game feel like shit to play.
    Forever wishing for LOTRO-esque seasonal events.
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  9. #69
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    Ayche's Avatar
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    Aychelle Tripler
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    Raiden
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    imo they ran into fitting issues regardless. I don't have a pic on hand but ask a male au ra to put on the new item. it gives them the curviest waist in the world, even curvier than some females lol
    and then on non-lalafell female races, the dress looks... idk, it's hard to describe. on lalafell it looks pretty good, but on "tall" females it looks like it's almost too small? like the actual dress part comes up just a bit too high in a weird way. and when you sit down, it doesn't bend at all; it just flairs open and lets people see right up to your stomach if you wear any other bottoms with it. and the shoulders look strange to me from the back. the hands clip through the dress too, which was a problem with the previous val dress as well. it just felt off; i was excited for it initially, but in the end i didn't assign it to a glam plate because it just looked poorly fitted and low quality in a lot of ways beyond the outer appearance. The actual appearance of the object is great, but running around in it and using it, for me at least, felt pretty bad. loads of other people obviously love it though lol so i'm not like, pretending to represent everyone. just saying that even without the gender neutral element, they clearly weren't able to nail everything. which is a bummer.
    I have sometimes speculated about how they automate the fit on most of the races, atleast I assume it is done by letting some tool handle it.
    You know the old adage, that everyone except lalafell are just stretched out hyur like if you took a ball of taffy and squishy and pulled on it? That surely holds some water, but clothes and fitting breaks pretty easily if you try to apply the same logic. In any more elaborate outfit their typical scaling stands out even more, because nobody actually would like ... make the shoulders bigger for taller people but that is what Roes get because as a rule, roe gear has wider sleeves. Why? Shrug. Feels like it is still following the same logic of "we need this leather tunic to be bigger" kind of deal.

    Lalafell get custom fit tho, and that is why they usually get to look the best.
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  10. #70
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayche View Post
    I have sometimes speculated about how they automate the fit on most of the races, atleast I assume it is done by letting some tool handle it.
    You know the old adage, that everyone except lalafell are just stretched out hyur like if you took a ball of taffy and squishy and pulled on it? That surely holds some water, but clothes and fitting breaks pretty easily if you try to apply the same logic. In any more elaborate outfit their typical scaling stands out even more, because nobody actually would like ... make the shoulders bigger for taller people but that is what Roes get because as a rule, roe gear has wider sleeves. Why? Shrug. Feels like it is still following the same logic of "we need this leather tunic to be bigger" kind of deal.

    Lalafell get custom fit tho, and that is why they usually get to look the best.

    yoship plays lala so their equipment, mounts and even furniture for housing always accommodates them while taller races can't even use the, say, spiral staircase.
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