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    Player Ivtrix's Avatar
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    Well it is a CURRENT ultimate fight, it's meant to be the hardest fight in the game.

    You would like to do this fight, as would i. But looking at lodestone, neither of us have even cleared P8S, the BARE requirement to even participate or even have a say on this fight.

    Unfortunately its just how the world works, If the content is too hard for you personally, then that's bad luck, and you have to get better.

    Not saying it to be rude, I'm in the exact same predicament at the moment.

    I just have to get better.
    fight is methodical until p5

    then it goes off the rails
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    World first clear people need to turn to illegal stuff, so I would guess so... just because one team got caught, does not mean the rest did or do not still use stuff like this... it just make one ask one self questions about those people.
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    Oldschoolegamer38's Avatar
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    Fultorn Kilnson
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    World first clear people need to turn to illegal stuff, so I would guess so... just because one team got caught, does not mean the rest did or do not still use stuff like this... it just make one ask one self questions about those people.
    here's the thing these sociopaths won't because they see it as ok...
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    World first clear people need to turn to illegal stuff,
    They didn't need to turn to cheat to beat it. They turned to cheating because they wanted to be word first.
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    They didn't need to turn to cheat to beat it. They turned to cheating because they wanted to be word first.
    Nearly every raid team in the game is "cheating." Third-party tool usage has increased exponentially since ARR, although it wasn't unheard of back then. The majority of players do not raid for the challenge - it's for the clout. This rings true from EX, to savage, and all the way up to Ultimate.
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Nearly every raid team in the game is "cheating." Third-party tool usage has increased exponentially since ARR, although it wasn't unheard of back then. The majority of players do not raid for the challenge - it's for the clout. This rings true from EX, to savage, and all the way up to Ultimate.
    My thoughts exactly. Nobody cares about the intended challenges anymore, clearly thats been the case ever since people started using addons. People always seek an easy way out when the game doesnt accommodate to their "needs"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Nearly every raid team in the game is "cheating." Third-party tool usage has increased exponentially since ARR, although it wasn't unheard of back then. The majority of players do not raid for the challenge - it's for the clout. This rings true from EX, to savage, and all the way up to Ultimate.
    Not arguing this take is right or wrong, but it wasn't my point nor the point I was countering. The point was people never "need" to, they just "want" to. The reason why they "want" to is irrelevant since it's the same difference. As a reminder, the poster I was replying to "the top team needs to cheat to be world as proof the content is too hard", which is what I disagree with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Nobody cares about the intended challenges anymore
    I wish people use quantifier like Everybody or Nobody with more care, 'cause that's a bold claim to make. There are still a large section of people playing on console meaning they can't cheat even if they want to, and not everyone on PC would cheat. Those two points alone would easily dismiss the veracity of the "nobody" claim. Overgeneralize never help to make a point.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 02-02-2023 at 11:21 AM.

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    Oldschoolegamer38's Avatar
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    Fultorn Kilnson
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 90
    If you have to use cheats to raid to clear content yeah..for the rest of us who are legit no
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    Victor Spoils
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    There were millions of complaints about DSR being too hard. It was and it's still one of the biggest static breaker we've had in the game.
    So much that the general reaction to Yoshi-P's claim that they didn't intend to make anything harder than that was a sigh of relief, even from the most hardcore part of the community.



    It took longer to clear TOP than it did to clear DSR, by the way, with twice the amount of pulls necessary.
    Not DSR, actually. Someone incorrectly said it took two weeks to clear.

    UWU: 6/10/2017 (5 days)
    UCOB: 11/4/2017 (11 days)
    TEA: 11/19/2019 (7 days)
    DSR: 5/2/2022 (6 days)
    TOP: 2/1/2023 (8 days)
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    Elena Redoran
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    Brynhildr
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    Sage Lv 100
    I think you should begin by clearing P8S before worrying about this ultimate being too hard. It's only going to get easier over time
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