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  1. #1
    Player
    damnation_'s Avatar
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    Sahn Damnation
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    Jenova
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    Botanist Lv 90

    Is the new Ultimate too hard?

    The top players are having a difficult time progressing in this Ultimate. For a bystander, it feels boring, uninteresting and unfun to see how the top players are progressing. Is it asking too much for a slightly easier and more fun Ultimate? I am sure the Dev team did their best to make this a great Ultimate.
    I would like to do this Ultimate but the bar is set very high. I think it will cause a low turn out for people attempting or completing this new Ultimate.
    How can we make this a better Ultimate? I cannot wait for the top players review for this fight.
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    It's supposed to be hard. That's the point of them
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    DiaDeem's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 100
    It's supposed to be hard. Wanna watch midcore content? Go watch EX or something. Ultimate is, well... Ultimate.
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    Delis's Avatar
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    Mari Yumishi
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 90
    That's the point. It's suppose to be hard. The people that do them (for the most part) enjoy that they are hard. Once things are figured out and strats get fined tuned it will be a bit easier for those of us that run it afterwards.
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    people have asked for harder content. ultimates are not meant to be done by everyone, but by those that want to invest the time and effort in doing them.

    they are not meant for average players. the bar is supposed to be very high.
    (7)

  6. #6
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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Kugane (No that red crayon is totally legitimate) >.>
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    Character
    Ritsuko Sonoda
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Is it too hard? Probably not. The issue is people using tools get to a point where they personally cannot play without said tools. Hence why the over reliance on these tools results in degradation of player skills.
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    Player Necrotica's Avatar
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    Dolly Derringer
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 90
    They do need to figure something out to make them more enjoyable to watch. Not gonna draw people in if it looks miserable. And if it doesn't help bring in new players I cannot see it being worth the dev time involved for how little engagement it gets.
    (1)

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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrotica View Post
    They do need to figure something out to make them more enjoyable to watch. Not gonna draw people in if it looks miserable. And if it doesn't help bring in new players I cannot see it being worth the dev time involved for how little engagement it gets.
    Ultimate is hardly a selling point, especially given how few ever complete it. It likely falls into the category of labor of love with how little it's actually engaged.

    I can't say much about making it more enjoyable to watch as I legit don't enjoy watching much gameplay. I'd rather be playing.
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  9. #9
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    LalafellDown's Avatar
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    Character
    Ultima Ultima
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    It’s too hard because you need real life coordination. The dedication to it isn’t for anyone who can just go in and do it like a dark souls game. That’s a design flaw. It’s created for the most toxic of people. Who lets be honest demand the highest performance which requires you to install mods to know your performance.

    Maybe the solution isn’t 3rd party mods but in game mods created by the developers themselves. For these fights players could choose specific developers mods that assist in the fight? Or just stop making game modes for the high tier toxic community. With that much toxicity comes great corruption.
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    Picker's Avatar
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    Picker Blend
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 95
    It’s probably a little too easy now that Its been revealed that they are all scrub lord cheating noobs
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