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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    I'm 100% for it.
    I have nothing to hide as
    Everyone has something to hide.
    If a program can scan your computer for FFXIV mods, it can also find all sorts of other files on your computer in the process.
    Embarassing love letters?
    Nude pictures of you and your SO?
    Credit card numbers?
    And so on.
    Are you sure you want them to be able to see all that? Because if they can find your mods, they can find anything else on your computer as well.
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Everyone has something to hide.
    If a program can scan your computer for FFXIV mods, it can also find all sorts of other files on your computer in the process.
    Embarassing love letters?
    Nude pictures of you and your SO?
    Credit card numbers?
    And so on.
    Are you sure you want them to be able to see all that? Because if they can find your mods, they can find anything else on your computer as well.
    No it can't, anticheat only focuses on
    -what you're currently running in the task manager
    -what's touching the game's install folder
    -what's touching the game's memory
    -encrypting and preventing decryption/snooping on network packets the game uses
    Anticheat doesn't go in and snoop around your computer. People have some strange ideas about what anticheat is
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    No it can't, anticheat only focuses on
    -what you're currently running in the task manager
    -what's touching the game's install folder
    -what's touching the game's memory
    -encrypting and preventing decryption/snooping on network packets the game uses
    Anticheat doesn't go in and snoop around your computer. People have some strange ideas about what anticheat is
    One Wikipedia search and suddenly everyone is a pundit
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    No it can't, anticheat only focuses on
    -what you're currently running in the task manager
    -what's touching the game's install folder
    -what's touching the game's memory
    -encrypting and preventing decryption/snooping on network packets the game uses
    Anticheat doesn't go in and snoop around your computer. People have some strange ideas about what anticheat is
    Can't really give absolutes here, it depends on the implementation. I know some corporation that are very sleazy with what they do explicitly and some corporations that not only make the comparison on your data but store it (even if it's implicitly)...now this data is a security compromise to the user [depending on what data is stored].

    If the error they throw is by recursive means, meaning not direct, that means anything is fair game. If they get too direct, then it can't stand the test of time. I would not like an anti-cheat solely based on the reason if they do what other companies do (that is a heartbeat check), then anything can throw a false positive and you'll have yet another reason getting kicked from the game (outside of the common crash occurrences that may happen or faulty connections). And not to mention, these checks aren't free from performance loss, so it would be at the expense of the user.
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    Last edited by Katish; 10-13-2023 at 05:29 AM.

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    DragonFlyy's Avatar
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    Jasla Angelkin
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    No it can't, anticheat only focuses on
    -what you're currently running in the task manager
    -what's touching the game's install folder
    -what's touching the game's memory
    -encrypting and preventing decryption/snooping on network packets the game uses
    Anticheat doesn't go in and snoop around your computer. People have some strange ideas about what anticheat is
    And Anticheat is 100% defeat-able.
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFlyy View Post
    And Anticheat is 100% defeat-able.
    It can also be a lot more invasive than the person you replied to is letting on. There have been numerous instances of people getting banned off of games/platforms just for having memory editing tools on their PC, for example. False positives are a very real thing, and they can be an indicator of an anti-cheat scanning far more than what it's claimed to.

    But you know what? Screw it. I wasn't in favor of it back when this thread was first made, but I've changed my mind since then. Let's get us some anti-cheat up in here. It should be entertaining. Extra points if it can kill that one tool - it'll make at least a quarter of the game's raiders completely unable to function.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 10-13-2023 at 10:28 AM.

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    Aneshda's Avatar
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    Deidrea Shadowbane
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Everyone has something to hide.
    If a program can scan your computer for FFXIV mods, it can also find all sorts of other files on your computer in the process.
    Embarassing love letters?
    Nude pictures of you and your SO?
    Credit card numbers?
    And so on.
    Are you sure you want them to be able to see all that? Because if they can find your mods, they can find anything else on your computer as well.
    Well as I wrote, I have nothing to hide, every little Info about me, my Bank Accounts and what not, is not on my Computer.
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