Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

[SieyaM]

I don't understand why players use ACT on low-end content either. It's honestly daft, especially the ones who choose to plug them into FFLogs... like... honeys... what's the point of knowing how much damage someone did on one single Normal Raid? There's no point, and FFLogs enabling it is just as dumb.

But if anyone is actively using ACT to harass you, then report them.

Raiders generally don't use it to harass, especially not players where massive performance isn't necessary. And even raiders who do it among themselves are really just opening themselves up for retaliation. So yes, if that happens to you, hammer 'em.

...that said, are you accusing raiders of actually doing it with proof to the point of it actually being so widespread? Or are you saying this in the fear that it might be used that way? Because the way this topic is dealt with by Square Enix, especially when it's used for harassment directly, is a good enough deterrant, it usually isn't a thing that actively happens. And when it does, it's reprehensible; even raiders agree. But idk your experience, are raiders really being so overt with using these tools to discriminate against you and people you know?

I have not been harassed but I have the feeling were I to attempt savage I would be for not having any savage logs first and then about the numbers already present on FFlogs. My point is about parsers already being used outside of savage and people already unknowingly having their performance evaluated and published in content where it is absolutely unnecessary. It's also about the stance SE taking right now allows raiders to use tools to evaluate their performance as long as they are discreet while also allowing SE to take action against their use in content where performance is not as important.

[TomsYoungerBro]

I have not been harassed but I have the feeling were I to attempt savage I would be for not having any savage logs first and then about the numbers already present on FFlogs. My point is about parsers already being used outside of savage and people already unknowingly having their performance evaluated and published in content where it is absolutely unnecessary. It's also about the stance SE taking right now allows raiders to use tools to evaluate their performance as long as they are discreet while also allowing SE to take action against their use in content where performance is not as important.

So you have not been harassed, but you feel like you will be? Thats not a good argument xD

[Rilifane]

I have not been harassed but I have the feeling were I to attempt savage I would be for not having any savage logs first and then about the numbers already present on FFlogs. My point is about parsers already being used outside of savage and people already unknowingly having their performance evaluated and published in content where it is absolutely unnecessary. It's also about the stance SE taking right now allows raiders to use tools to evaluate their performance as long as they are discreet while also allowing SE to take action against their use in content where performance is not as important.

As Kazhar and Bro said, they won't give a fudge about your logs and looking you up while the party fills unless

• you're joining a prog/ clear party for bosses with checkpoints to see if you cleared the door boss
• you're joining a parse party to see if you're ready to actively chase parses
• you're applying for a static with specific goals, e.g. midcore static, aiming to clear within the first month, wants to do one of the ultimates after everyone is BiS.
• the party keeps wiping to enrage even though mechanics are going really well

The latter is still fairly rare, though. More often than not, it's easier to just disband instead of looking through 7 profiles to identify the potential cause if they don't have ACT running to get the general idea.

I've done plenty of PF on alt classes or even on alt characters that didn't have a clear yet or any decent logs yet, bonus points if that char had a sprout/ returner icon. I've never been kicked or let alone harassed about my numbers.