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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    Why does the player-base and Square hyperfocus on just the Raiding tools why not everything else as well when it's often glaringly obvious? Because players and Square silently agree on something. That the tools are beneficial to enjoying the game, while Square not needing to use resources to develop them.
    The bots are cared about and the bans happen constantly. It's just that there's not that much that can be done about them at this point beyond just purging them on the regular without chaging the game to the point where it may affect normal players' experience, such as adding additional personal info verifications on registration and such. Bot ban waves happen regularly and will keep happening regularly and everyone has accepted that its just a thing that goes that way. Reason the community and SE hyperfocus on raiding so much is because when the big progging race for any new content is on - all of community's attention is at those progging. So of course, seeing it done with cheats is a bad look for SE and for community. Reason raiding cheating is treated worse than the shader modding is because... It is worse. All modding is against TOS equally, but with cheating there is also active impact on the integrity of the game, which is why its treated worse. Everyone hates bots just as much for same reason, but its a topic thats been talked to death and ultimately issue thats as solved as it can be without some radical new approach with its own underwater stones to counterbalance.

    Nobody will treat all mods as equal because they aren't equal. Community especially so. SE, in turn, rarely acts on it because their definition of 'credible proof of modding' is different from what most people think it is, and therefore just someone posting a screenshot of their modded game is not enough grounds for punishment, actually. With gameplay-affecting mods that give you impossible-normally advantages though? Its a lot more easy to verify than whether you have a mod that makes all catgirls have chests size of two Dalamuds.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroman3003 View Post
    Its a lot more easy to verify than whether you have a mod that makes all catgirls have chests size of two Dalamuds.
    It's also how these raiders get caught too. It's not them talking about it in public, it's not them admitting to using third party tools. It's the fact that they're either using ridiculously blatant tools that anyone and their grandmother can tell is a problem (speedhacks) or they're streaming those tools being used, like the TOP guys did.

    A screenshot of your Miqo'te with entire shards for a bosom? There's no guarantee that the catgirl is the one modding her character. Someone might have mods and have taken a picture of her with them on. She isn't modding, someone else is, and they're doing it to her. Even if consensual. Which is why it's that hard to prove. Even if you have someone admit to using them, if there's no tangible proof that they truly are using them, then it's not a straightforward process.

    However if you manage to capture their screen with them using modded assets, then yeah. That's a much more tangible proof.

    ...which is why for as much as clearing any Ultimate is a feat of its own that likely requires skill and knowledge of the game, the people who got caught are no geniuses if their immediate thought was to broadcast their use of third party tools so publicly.
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