Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

[Lium]

I'll give the same courtesy by quoting only a partial statement I guess...

Having started only since end SHB, As far as I can tell? every thing that's associated with cheating is more often being related with Combat Third-party-Tools. Creating this this prejudice that raiders on average by default abuse them. Even though there 20.000 online active Mare users, Millions of non Combat mods/plugins and files downloaded... and yet Square addresses mostly 1st World Raiders of which represents at best 0.01% of the Total player-base and a fraction of all raiders. Heck the 1000 Lalafell bots underneath the Aetherytes are treated with less malice by the community and Square then the Raiders... " who don't even use Third party tools ", let alone with.

Though I never said Raiders are the only once to get attention out of everyone. The way I meant my phrasing to be taken was " mostly ". But thank you for the history lesson. I'm sure they all got their just banned/suspensions/punishments including the Balmung Billboard players like the Ultimate players did who cheated.

TLDR: Usage of Third Party tools breaks Square's rules regardless of what type you use. Cheating = Cheating. And until I see Square themselves treat it as such equally across the board? I'll spare no indignation crusades/ opinions.

There is a big difference between aesthetic mods and gameplay mods.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

There is a big difference between aesthetic mods and gameplay mods.

If you're talking about "importing a dress from that other game to this game and using it on your character", sure, but if you're talking about housing plugins, crafting plugins or whatever, well...

Tbh I don't really see how. If you think gameplay plugins are "cheat" to have a good parse or a clear you shouldn't have, there also are some people that take pride (and even commission) housing designs or whatever, so they probably feel cheated by people using addons the same way "normal" raiders feel cheated by the people using pve addons.

My point is not that everyone should be banned, IDC what people do and what they use, my point is : you should take pride in what you do, however you do it, and stop comparing yourself to others. I take pride in my "vanilla" kills, and in my "vanilla" housing, and that's enough for me. More than "take pride in what you do", it includes "not caring about others parse" and "not caring that this other community is cheating too". Just focus on what you do, let SE handle bans or whatever they should do with cheaters, and chill.

[Padudu]

There is a big difference between aesthetic mods and gameplay mods.

The housing plugins are definitely not just aesthetic mods tho. The one that they're talking about genuinely lets you place housing items outside of the game limits, at least for the most part.

[Lium]

The housing plugins are definitely not just aesthetic mods tho. The one that they're talking about genuinely lets you place housing items outside of the game limits, at least for the most part.

I should have been more specific. I meant mods that only change the appearance of your character. Like gear and hair. Stuff like that. I consider housing and crafting "gameplay" mods, akin to raiding. And by the way, I don't care what anyone uses. Mods don't bother me.

I was just responding to that poster who said they felt singled out as a raider when there are many other mods out there for various other things in the game. That's true. But there is a difference between fluff mods and mods that directly impact gameplay.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

I should have been more specific. I meant mods that only change the appearance of your character. Like gear and hair. Stuff like that. I consider housing and crafting "gameplay" mods, akin to raiding. And by the way, I don't care what anyone uses. Mods don't bother me.

I was just responding to that poster who said they felt singled out as a raider when there are many other mods out there for various other things in the game. That's true. But there is a difference between fluff mods and mods that directly impact gameplay.

As I said, I wasn't sure if you were talking about glamour mods, and since you were, all good, don't take what I said personally, I just used your answer for a more global approach, but I'm glad you feel this way as well.

[CelestiCer]

There is a big difference between aesthetic mods and gameplay mods.

Players using 200 Fantasia's in less then an hour for free instantly anywhere you want and selling commissioned and non-commissioned aesthetics mods for real life money. -> No Advantages, completely playing the game as intended. Sure lets go with that.

[xxmiamorecadenza]

Players using 200 Fantasia's in less then an hour for free instantly anywhere you want and selling commissioned and non-commissioned aesthetics mods for real life money. -> No Advantages, completely playing the game as intended. Sure lets go with that.

I will admit that selling mods for irl money is a bit odd. Not unless someone can argue otherwise.

[keichirou]

I will admit that selling mods for irl money is a bit odd. Not unless someone can argue otherwise.

lowkey this should be illegal IMO(im not sure if it is tbh) mainly because this is a clear violation of IP,copyrights and trademarks.
if they come with a complete idea , no using assets from an already established product, then yeah go for it and sell it , but here the modders are taking advantage of others people work.

[RitsukoSonoda]

lowkey this should be illegal IMO(im not sure if it is tbh) mainly because this is a clear violation of IP,copyrights and trademarks.
if they come with a complete idea , no using assets from an already established product, then yeah go for it and sell it , but here the modders are taking advantage of others people work.

Dunno tbh. If you watch a bunch of those clip compilation videos of streamers getting busted cheating you'll see some that paid for the cheat programs they were using because they still have the receipt in their email inbox lol.

[HikariKurosawa]

Dunno tbh. If you watch a bunch of those clip compilation videos of streamers getting busted cheating you'll see some that paid for the cheat programs they were using because they still have the receipt in their email inbox lol.

Paid cheats happen in every online game that is successful. It is illegal everywhere and square enix can legally attack anyone distributing the mods. Maybe yoshi-p says he is against stuff like ACT but actually uses it all after all. It's weird how deep the "dont ask dont tell" effect goes. This game is a joke. The people who play it are extremely dishonest and fake. It's all just a front you put on to avoid being actioned. When rules basically don't exist as long as you don't talk about breaking them, they might as well not exist at all.

This game sucks so bad and for all the wrong reasons, because it is a better game than anything else on the market if you were to exclude this issue from your judgment of it. It's to the point where I am inclined to log in for the remainder of my cancelled sub, ask people if they are modding in raid content, and report them over and over. If I show up on any parse, I will report all 7 people in the group. Then they will find out who actually parsed it and ban them.

There's no excuse for this. I paid money to play a game that has "strict" rules over addons, and now I learn that the rules are fake. What a joke. Shame on this playerbase.