Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

[Saraide]

If you are putting 3 months of your personal time on an Excel spreadsheet to try and go over the logs of one battle I'll commend your effort, as soon as you use and add-on, I'll report your cheating.

I love how you pretend Excel wouldnt be a third party tool in that case.

[solimiano]

I love how you pretend Excel wouldnt be a third party tool in that case.

If it takes you 3 months to analyze one single fight, and it doesn't interact with the FFXIV official game in any way shape or form, like providing you real time data, I'm more than happy with it, because if nothing else it's already new patch time and you clearly haven't cleared the fight...
Now if on the other hand, the Devs would update the game next maintenance with every single addon that exists, that would also be fine since it's now part of the official game, either way you are not breaking the rules.
How hard is it to understand, do not break the rules.

[Vrankyl]

If it takes you 3 months to analyze one single fight, and it doesn't interact with the FFXIV official game in any way shape or form, like providing you real time data, I'm more than happy with it, because if nothing else it's already new patch time and you clearly haven't cleared the fight...
Now if on the other hand, the Devs would update the game next maintenance with every single addon that exists, that would also be fine since it's now part of the official game, either way you are not breaking the rules.
How hard is it to understand, do not break the rules.

Not sure where you are getting the three month portion. It might take a few days if you dedicated the time to it to analyze it, maybe longer for those who are bad at math/excel. That said, if ACT were suddenly not to exist, the people behind such things would likely do as another suggested and create a browser app/prebuilt excel sheet for you to just copy/paste the information into and get an immediate response. Sure, you can't see it mid fight but uh.... no one looks at that stuff mid fight. If you are looking at your parse during a fight in any game it means you aren't paying attention to the fight and there for reducing your DPS. Thus it would be used in the exact same way as a browser app would be, and said browser app would be completely immune to any 'anti-cheat' system or detection.

[solimiano]

Not sure where you are getting the three month portion. It might take a few days if you dedicated the time to it to analyze it, maybe longer for those who are bad at math/excel. That said, if ACT were suddenly not to exist, the people behind such things would likely do as another suggested and create a browser app/prebuilt excel sheet for you to just copy/paste the information into and get an immediate response. Sure, you can't see it mid fight but uh.... no one looks at that stuff mid fight. If you are looking at your parse during a fight in any game it means you aren't paying attention to the fight and there for reducing your DPS. Thus it would be used in the exact same way as a browser app would be, and said browser app would be completely immune to any 'anti-cheat' system or detection.

Ok, thanks for educating me, since I have no idea how it works, i've only seen screens of it showing as an overlay like the in-game HUD. So it's a more refined way of looking at data, the same way you would look at the in-game recordings to figure out mechanics.
Seems simple enough to understand and use if it was part of the official game like the recording function is.
But until such time, it's a third party addon, breach of tos, and as such it's considered cheating.

[Absimiliard]

Shhhh. Nobody tell it there are DPS trackers that don't come anywhere near violating TOS because all they do is read the combat log.

[SlouchyBard]

Shhhh. Nobody tell it there are DPS trackers that don't come anywhere near violating TOS because all they do is read the combat log.

Isn't reading a third party tool? Lol

[Absimiliard]

Isn't reading a third party tool? Lol

Not every third-party tool violates TOS. Those tools have to function in certain ways to qualify as a TOS violation. In the case of tools that analyze data, what determines whether or not a TOS violation has taken place is how that data is acquired. If everything third-party used with the game qualified, we'd all be in trouble. Discord and other third-party chat mediums would go have to go right out the window as well, by the logic being thrown around by some forum posters.

[Saraide]

If it takes you 3 months to analyze one single fight, and it doesn't interact with the FFXIV official game in any way shape or form, like providing you real time data, I'm more than happy with it, because if nothing else it's already new patch time and you clearly haven't cleared the fight...
Now if on the other hand, the Devs would update the game next maintenance with every single addon that exists, that would also be fine since it's now part of the official game, either way you are not breaking the rules.
How hard is it to understand, do not break the rules.

Oh now you're suddenly caring about nuance. No no no you gotta read the TOS.

You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay.

Read closely what that says. It's not just about modifying the game, it's also about modifying gameplay. And guess what, it wont take 3 months to analyze a fight. Someone is going to create some excel macro that can quickly read out the combat log (this isnt my assumption btw, that's yoship's). And guess what, discord is also a third party software that modifies gameplay.
Stay your course or admit you're wrong.

[solimiano]

Oh now you're suddenly caring about nuance. No no no you gotta read the TOS.



Read closely what that says. It's not just about modifying the game, it's also about modifying gameplay. And guess what, it wont take 3 months to analyze a fight. Someone is going to create some excel macro that can quickly read out the combat log (this isnt my assumption btw, that's yoship's). And guess what, discord is also a third party software that modifies gameplay.
Stay your course or admit you're wrong.

Excell macro, you are creating an automation tool to read the battle log for you and spit the results so you can use it.
Nah, you sit there reading each and every number of each and every attack, see you when next expansion comes out.

[Saraide]

Excell macro, you are creating an automation tool to read the battle log for you and spit the results so you can use it.
Nah, you sit there reading each and every number of each and every attack, see you when next expansion comes out.

Oh so it does matter how you are using the program then? Interesting admission from you, didnt expect that.