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  1. #741
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    HikariKurosawa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Precisely. The people with the skill to get the job done simply do not care. The ones whining would never have been able to earn the weapons in the first place.
    Obviously they care. You don't because you used cheats to get them. There is a difference. Even if only one person who earned them honestly cares, they matter more than 99.99999% of the people who "don't care" in your mind.

    Nobody here is whining but you, about the scenario where your weapons are permanently confiscated because you know you can't earn them honestly. I don't have any attachment to the idea, I just want to be able to look up to the prestige again. MMO with no prestige might as well be a single player game. I want progress to mean something. This self-indulgent apathetic mentality is killing mmos.
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  2. #742
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Precisely. The people with the skill to get the job done simply do not care. The ones whining would never have been able to earn the weapons in the first place. The bloody things look awful anyway, with a handful of exceptions.
    LOL Seriously those weapons almost all look horrendous. Subjective opinion and all but damn, I really dislike them for the most part LOL.
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  3. #743
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Obviously they care. You don't because you used cheats to get them. There is a difference. Even if only one person who earned them honestly cares, they matter more than 99.99999% of the people who "don't care" in your mind.

    Nobody here is whining but you, about the scenario where your weapons are permanently confiscated because you know you can't earn them honestly. I don't have any attachment to the idea, I just want to be able to look up to the prestige again. MMO with no prestige might as well be a single player game. I want progress to mean something. This self-indulgent apathetic mentality is killing mmos.
    #citationneeded
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  4. #744
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    I sure do love the opinion of prestige on content from someone not doing that content.
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  5. #745
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Its cringey how almost every post you make regarding the devs is so obviously written out of contempt for them lol

    Anyway, I think this maaay be a big deal if Yoshida finds out about this drama. Since Gshade was really one of the only few third party programs that can be openly talked about and they have gone on record in the past that them was an exception due to its implementation.


    However the fact that the tool dev did something this malicious is just going to throw more fuel into the already on going fire with 3rd party programs with what the drama we just had with TOP. You should absolutely be considering how this will affect their stance on 3rd party even more. How about you quit acting like the devs dont matter when its their game and they're the ones who will ultimately start cracking down on everything we do because of light of this situation with a commonly used tool for the game. This is not about whether the community can handle itself, its about the attitude were expressing to the dev team whom already are getting sick and tired of dealing with our bs time and time again.
    Oh silly me for pointing out what SE and yoship keep saying every single time this topic is brought up. Install mods at your own risk, simple as that.

    We receive many inquiries regarding infection by viruses and spyware that steal passwords after downloading third-party tools and plugins. To keep your system secure, we ask that you exercise judgement and refrain from needlessly downloading third-party tools or software of unknown origins.
    Are you sure you're not mixing me up with someone again? Atmost all they need to do is say "we told you so, third party tools are a security risk". I am considering how this will affect their stance but there is more to their stance than the flailing outrage of the forum. The devteam isnt made up of tantrumming children, it's adults running a business. For this specific business cheaters arent as reputation damaging as for pure pvp games like valorant, overwatch and league as by and large they dont negatively impact players in their normal play sessions (yes I know, pvp cheaters exist but not enough people care about pvp in this game for SE to lift a finger).

    In reality they are profit orientated and while the FF14 part of SE has some morals intact when it comes to monetization (as opposed to other parts of the company) there is little hesitation when it comes to mods. Yes, yoship thinks modding in gaming is overall a good thing but that doesnt stop him from sending the hammer. Which leaves us with the possibility that maybe the modding scene is overall beneficial to SE's bank accounts. Forum outrage and memes wont change that. Afterall, if people can fix their issues with the game (of which there are many) through mods they will have a better time with the game and will potentially stay subbed for longer.
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  6. #746
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I sure do love the opinion of prestige on content from someone not doing that content.
    Or even CAPABLE of doing that content
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  7. #747
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Are you mad that someone is pointing out that the game isn't successful enough to justify having such a dirty cheating community enabled in it?

    "Successful enough" and "Good enough" aren't as quantifiably critical of statements as you think. The game could be so much more than mediocre, but the cheating community holds it back so much.

    Like I have said, I probably love this game more than most of you. I don't have to mod it or parse to enjoy it.

    @Zebraoracle I want to be able to look up to the peers doing challenging content. You remove that experience from the game. You make it some self-indulgent dishonest thing where everyone is just playing for their own experience and nothing external matters anymore. I want ultimate weapons to actually have real prestige. You want to do what you want, even if it means breaking the rules. Shame on you.
    Just go do something else useful bro
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  8. #748
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Or even CAPABLE of doing that content
    "Just reclear all ultimates", says the guy who thinks P3S is too hard for PF
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 02-07-2023 at 08:55 PM.

  9. #749
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Unfortunately Hikari is not so wrong about stealing credit card information or hacking your computer. There are some reasons why ACT has to be started with elevated rights. And if an application has Administrator rights then it can do literery everything.


    Cheers
    I'm sure you dont mean to concern troll but that really is the risk of the people installing mods and not anyone else's. It is also kind of an ironic thing to say in a thread about introducing an anti cheat software which needs even more permissions on your system, just look at valorant's anti cheat. If giving vast permissions to a program is a concern to you then you have to be against anti cheat software. The permissions given to anti cheat software in general has in the past already been exploited in the case of genshin impact's anticheat.
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  10. #750
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    This mentality is actually going to kill the game. You think that it's about money, but it's really about success and legitimacy. MMOs can just die. You cheaters are killing this mmo.
    at this point you need to just stop coming on the forums or something. You coming off as a unhinge individual at this point. And since you are leaving have good one and hope you find a game that does not have mods because a decent amount of games do have mods
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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