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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    Botters however need a ban. People that harass others with DPS numbers in normal content will be reported by me the instant I see it for both harassment and using a 3rd party tool. People like the creep that walked up to me when I was an a lalafel character and said some very pedophilia type things and informed me he had an addon and I was naked likewise got a fast report (and I deleted the lala)
    Well obviously that lalafell deserved the ban.
    People who actively harass others with DPS numbers regardless of content should get slammed. The fact that it was in normal content is pretty cringe and pathetic on top of it.
    It's people like those that make others feel uncomfortable with the existence of these tools, because then you can't trust other people to be cordial. We're not the WoW community, but that doesn't mean we should tip our toes into it either.
    And botters have a direct impact in our economy, so it's understandable to want them gone.

    I know it's not a convincing argument to say "Not everyone who parses will be like that". Because that's a given, the problem are the ones who would.

    Just don't be like the absolute geniuses who look at quality of life tools that simply give people with disabilities or other forms of issues (people of other languages can put subtitles into the game so that they can understand it) and conflate it with harassing people. And then have the absolute gall to deny that such conditions exist. If you're going to hate so much on those tools, you should also acknowledge that there are interesting and useful applications and maybe support their addition into the game natively. For the benefit of everyone.
    Because while these tools are illegal, they should be distinguished between those that can be used harm others versus the ones that can't, and discourage the use of the latter by officially implementing similar systems.

    As for FFLogs, I feel like they should have an easier way to disable them than just having to use Square Enix's own platform to block a third party tool.
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    Myrany Wilzuun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Well obviously that lalafell deserved the ban.
    People who actively harass others with DPS numbers regardless of content should get slammed. The fact that it was in normal content is pretty cringe and pathetic on top of it.
    It's people like those that make others feel uncomfortable with the existence of these tools, because then you can't trust other people to be cordial. We're not the WoW community, but that doesn't mean we should tip our toes into it either.
    And botters have a direct impact in our economy, so it's understandable to want them gone.

    I know it's not a convincing argument to say "Not everyone who parses will be like that". Because that's a given, the problem are the ones who would.

    Just don't be like the absolute geniuses who look at quality of life tools that simply give people with disabilities or other forms of issues (people of other languages can put subtitles into the game so that they can understand it) and conflate it with harassing people. And then have the absolute gall to deny that such conditions exist. If you're going to hate so much on those tools, you should also acknowledge that there are interesting and useful applications and maybe support their addition into the game natively. For the benefit of everyone.
    Because while these tools are illegal, they should be distinguished between those that can be used harm others versus the ones that can't, and discourage the use of the latter by officially implementing similar systems.

    As for FFLogs, I feel like they should have an easier way to disable them than just having to use Square Enix's own platform to block a third party tool.
    Like I said. If I don't know what you are running on your machine I got nothing to say about it.

    When it borders into unwanted and frankly gross advances or harassment yeah I am going to say something. With a report.

    As for FFlogs I actually found it comforting that I did not need to go to their site to take care of the issue.
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