Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

[ForteNightshade]

After this post I am cancelling my sub. I will wait for the future of this game. It's weird for a company to leave cheating as a sanctioned thing. It's one thing if it isn't against ToS like blizzard does for WoW, but to have it against ToS and fully enabled without punishment even when people are openly admitting to using addons and breaking ToS on the official forums.

For people to be shaming players by bringing up their parses to use against them on the official forums as addon users, when the people they are shaming just play the game as a fun rpg because they know that it's not currently a legitimate experience in regards to fair play... It's just weird and toxic. I don't think this community should exist as is. I don't want to support this company as is, and I don't feel good being in this world anymore.

It was just an RPG to me, but now it's become something tainted after the omega controversy bringing how bad the problem actually is to light. Something has to change.

"Xeno's honest thoughts on the cheating drama" watch this video on youtube without feeling sick. It's a test to see how honest you are.

Adding to what Rilifane said, I have to ask. Why does it matter to you if someone enjoys parsing and chasing a leaderboard provided they aren't being a jerk about it? Their enjoyment of the game literally does nothing to impact yours. In fact, if this is just a "chill RPG" for you and you never set foot in Savage then you're unlikely to even bump into someone such as myself who spends a lot of time in PF.

Put simply, people enjoy the game for different reasons. You're essentially demanding I play the way you approve. Which, ironically, sounds far more toxic than a parser ever was.

[HikariKurosawa]

Adding to what Rilifane said, I have to ask. Why does it matter to you if someone enjoys parsing and chasing a leaderboard provided they aren't being a jerk about it? Their enjoyment of the game literally does nothing to impact yours. In fact, if this is just a "chill RPG" for you and you never set foot in Savage then you're unlikely to even bump into someone such as myself who spends a lot of time in PF.

Put simply, people enjoy the game for different reasons. You're essentially demanding I play the way you approve. Which, ironically, sounds far more toxic than a parser ever was.

Because people are actively jerks about it and will always be? I am demanding you follow the ToS. It's not about my approval, it's about following the terms of service you legally agreed to when you signed up to play this game. People like you ruin the game for people like me.

On top of that, savage content is the most appealing RPG fantasy for me that exists in this game. Because of the state of addons being normalized, I am not going to fit in in that scene. For what reason? Because you're bad at mechanics and can't do things without cheating.

[Kazhar]

On top of that, savage content is the most appealing RPG fantasy for me that exists in this game. Because of the state of addons being normalized, I am not going to fit in in that scene. For what reason? Because you're bad at mechanics and can't do things without cheating.

Your whole victim act isn't going to get much traction if you're never able to stop casually insulting people for no reason.

The game isn't fun to play with people like you being enabled.

Who's "people like you"? I don't support cheating. Seems like you suffer from a bad case of strawmanning and black and white thinking.

I'm not a victim

For someone who's "not the victim", you sure write a lot of paragraph about how mean people are with you.

Also lol, do you struggle with writing? Is it hard work to form words about something you care about? Just curious since you seem to correlate amount of words with amount of hurt feelings.

English is not my first language so if I don't consider it worth it, I don't bother. But your entire post is such an amazing self-own I don't even have to say anything. I'll just passively watch yourself unveil the depths of your stupidity.

You're doing everyone who thinks your pov is irrational such a huge favor.

[HikariKurosawa]

Your whole victim act isn't going to get much traction if you're never able to stop casually insulting people for no reason.

Don't care, didn't ask. ToS is what it is. You self-reporting yourself is doing me all the favours I need.

Also what am I being made into a victim over? The game isn't fun to play with people like you being enabled. I'm not a victim, I just cancelled my sub to a video game. Square enix is the victim here.

I am at my post limit for the day, but I never used the words "chill rpg" I said "it's just a fun rpg to me". Fun is engaging in savage content to me. I am not a chill gamer. I will never value being chill in this life either because that's for cringelords who think they are cool.

People like firemage directly insulting me for a parse that I didn't sign up for, yeah that's cringe. I am proud of my savage clears because they were done honestly and for the clear, not to parse, but to clear the challenging content. The fact that that little cringelord banbait tried to dismiss my accomplishment is all that needs to be said.

There was also no avoiding hearing about the controversy surrounding the omega clear as an mmo player that goes on the internet. It has made waves and it is not going to be taken back under the radar. You have been exposed and now the days of cheating are numbered because quite honestly it's disgusting.

On top of all this, I am not offended. Just disappointed and let down. There is a huge difference. One is related to my emotions, one is related to my judgment of others. I don't feel down because I look down upon you. It's the opposite. I feel good about being on the side of righteousness. You are the defensive victim who is under attack here. Not me.

Also lol, do you struggle with writing? Is it hard work to form words about something you care about? Just curious since you seem to correlate amount of words with amount of hurt feelings.

"I have disabilities so I am exempt from following the rules". No, no, no, you are not.

It's not a superiority complex either, I am superior to you because I don't use addons. That's just reality. Complex implies an internal issue, like thinking your progress means anything even though you've cheated. You are the one with a complex, not me.

[ForteNightshade]

Because people are actively jerks about it and will always be? I am demanding you follow the ToS. It's not about my approval, it's about following the terms of service you legally agreed to when you signed up to play this game. People like you ruin the game for people like me.

On top of that, savage content is the most appealing RPG fantasy for me that exists in this game. Because of the state of addons being normalized, I am not going to fit in in that scene. For what reason? Because you're bad at mechanics and can't do things without cheating.

How does an overlay on someone's screen which calculates numbers become cheating? You can't dislike parsers all you fancy but there isn't even an argument they are anywhere close to cheating. It does nothing except calculations of your DPS. Now you can use ACT for other things but that's a whole different discussion. At a base level, it has quite literally nothing to do with being "bad at mechanics" because a parser has zero impact.

But let's go a step further. Say I or anyone in this thread is using triggers or Cactbot just for the sake of argument. How does it ruin the game for you if you aren't made aware of it while playing said game? Nobody is demanding these things become the norm or really cares what you're using provided you can do the content you've signed up for. My hypothetical hair mod isn't going to make Carbuncle stare longingly and give me a buff nor will it break any of your aesthetics. I'll look exactly the same as everyone else and you'll be none the wiser. If that does, genuinely, "ruin the game" for you then it's entirely a self inflicted problem. I don't dare how you play the game. So why care what I or anyone else does?

The end result should be the same, account terminated.

I'mma let you in on a little secret. If SE actually did this they'd effectively ban nearly their entire raid and roleplay communities which both number in the well over 100,000. I shouldn't have to highlight just how much money they'd be losing monthly . Hence why they'll never take such a draconian action of just outright banning people who have some sort of addon installed.