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    Ura Kuze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulvi View Post
    No imho it isn’t stupid. DPS meters undeniably create toxicity.
    FF: If a group fails a DPS check, everyone will try harder, because it’s not possible to see who is struggling the most.WoW: If a group fails a DPS check, the one who has the lowest DPS gets kicked immediately..
    Is that the fantasy you live in? Clearly shows you've never done any hard content in-game, definitely not via the PF at least. People just leave or complain if the party keeps failing a DPS check.
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    Tulviel Norolim
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOsha View Post
    Is that the fantasy you live in? Clearly shows you've never done any hard content in-game, definitely not via the PF at least. People just leave or complain if the party keeps failing a DPS check.
    I do Extreme trials in PF mostly. And I have never seen anyone leave because of a failed DPS check. Tbh, I’ve never seen anyone fail a DPS check other that enrage. 100% of my experience with people leaving is when somebody fails a mechanic, not a DPS check.

    Also since I do mostly only Extreme trials, usually the only DPS check there is the enrage. If we fail it, no one leaves because we know we can do it as we are really close to kill.

    I can’t speak for Savage as I rarely do them, because progging it requires a static and I’m not playing the game on a scheduled basis. So if there are more DPS checks in Savage, then sure, I can see why would people leave, but my personal experience from Extremes is that DPS check is never the reason to leave and I really never seen it happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulvi View Post
    Also since I do mostly only Extreme trials, usually the only DPS check there is the enrage
    Exactly, they barely even qualify as a dps check, savage and ultimate dps checks are on a whole other level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulvi View Post
    I do Extreme trials in PF mostly. And I have never seen anyone leave because of a failed DPS check. Tbh, I’ve never seen anyone fail a DPS check other that enrage. 100% of my experience with people leaving is when somebody fails a mechanic, not a DPS check.

    Also since I do mostly only Extreme trials, usually the only DPS check there is the enrage. If we fail it, no one leaves because we know we can do it as we are really close to kill.

    I can’t speak for Savage as I rarely do them, because progging it requires a static and I’m not playing the game on a scheduled basis. So if there are more DPS checks in Savage, then sure, I can see why would people leave, but my personal experience from Extremes is that DPS check is never the reason to leave and I really never seen it happen.
    I will say that savage dps checks tend to be far more punishing than extreme dps checks. as long as the party isn't dying left and right, it's very unlikely to see enrage in extremes (like I really never see it, either we wipe to mechanics or clear), but in savage it's a lot harder. I mostly play with a static, but if I'm in a pf and we're wiping multiple times to a dps check, I do leave the party because it's often a sign that we'll just be wiping to enrage until the lockout ends.

    This is assuming it's a reclear party, though. If I'm in a prog party I don't really care, but joining a reclear party implies that you are able to do the fight consistently and do enough damage to kill the boss, so i think it's kind of fair to say that if someone joins a party with specific expectations, they should be able to meet those expectations. that being said, I don't really see people getting kicked for their dps blatantly. normally the parties will just disband, in my experience. I've actually never seen anyone call out another player in chat for low dps, only players that are consistently failing mechs that they should be able to do if they're in a reclear party.
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