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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    You cant say just because they allow it in one game therefore its ok in another. That makes no sense.
    I don't believe it's okay in WoW, but since it is not against ToS it is technically not cheating and I have to use it to stay relevant in that game. In this game it is different because staying "relevant" means breaking ToS, so that's a huge conflict of interest. But in WoW it's allowed, so there is no internal conflict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    This game is a joke, just like every other mmo that supports addons like this. They say one thing, but then do nothing about the issue. There is no grey area as far as I can tell. It's just all greenlit by company that must not really care about integrity.


    SE has a million and one problems at a fundamental level, but this isn't even on the long list of things that they need to fix, both as a company and with this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    That's an interesting theory but we'll see how it plays out my memerman. You're defending breaking ToS on the official forums. Not a good look and kinda sketchy to be honest. Liable to get actioned lol.
    I will be just fine. I haven't done anything report worthy.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 02-04-2023 at 10:46 AM.

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    Those people who never set a foot in anything above Normal Raids sure have a lot to say about how the game should be played.
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  4. #464
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post


    SE has a million and one problems at a fundamental level, but this isn't even on the long list of things that they need to fix, both as a company and with this game.
    That's an interesting theory but we'll see how it plays out my memerman. You're defending breaking ToS on the official forums. Not a good look and kinda sketchy to be honest. Liable to get actioned lol.
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  5. #465
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    Those people who never set a foot in anything above Normal Raids sure have a lot to say about how the game should be played.
    Cleared P1S and P2S with no savage experience as a group leader in PF when they were prog content. Not sure what you know about other than being dependent on addons since you're out here defending them and attacking those who defend the ToS.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Cleared P1S and P2S with no savage experience as a group leader in PF when they were prog content. Not sure what you know about other than being dependent on addons since you're out here defending them and attacking those who defend the ToS.
    He didn't even say it was you, please calm down.

    Also, the people defending the ToS were the first to throw actual insults at people suggesting any leniency on third party tools since this TOP thing started. You guys aren't doing any better a job.
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  7. #467
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    He didn't even say it was you, please calm down.
    Don't care, I represent the people he is targeting. I cleared P1S and P2S without any addons or even discord, invalidated their position entirely just by existing.

    I'm very calm, are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Cleared P1S and P2S with no savage experience as a group leader in PF when they were prog content. Not sure what you know about other than being dependent on addons since you're out here defending them and attacking those who defend the ToS.
    Oh wow, you did...and these numbers are just...yikes
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  9. #469
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Oh wow, you did...and these numbers are just...yikes
    Isn't red mage the easiest class in game? You use addons, play the easiest class, and attack people who cleared content for a few weeks. Never cared to get it on farm status, never cared to parse, never cared about anything other than clearing it.

    You are a walking infraction and you're for sure going to get banned over this thread. Take care buddy, the community will be better off without your toxicity. Hope you find a new hobby to replace this one you're about to lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Shows dps and damage percentile in real time. It works exactly like recount only with different ui and maybe less features. It's hard to say because I don't break ToS and am unfamiliar with cheats. I can see from a simple screenshot that it is functionally the exact same as recount or details though: a real time performance metric.

    If you really believe that having real time access to your performance won't influence your gameplay in a positive way, you're just out of touch and clearly coping with using a performance enhancer. "I still have to press the buttons", yeah, and you're doing it with external assists telling you exactly how proficient you are doing real time. If you didn't have these assists, you would have to just base your performance on your own natural ability and nothing else. Everyone who has used a real time damage meter knows that the real time feedback makes your performance way tighter. Then there is the toxic comparisons we make against other players while we're on top. It's just not good for the game, and it's not in line with the fundamental values of fair play.
    Again, you have no idea how ACT works and now you're resorting to strawman arguments because I called you out on this. The numbers on ACT aren't what tell you stuff, it's when you upload it to FFLogs, ESPECIALLY if you're a job like dancer, because there are two different types of DPS in this game.

    This game is a joke, just like every other mmo that supports addons like this. They say one thing, but then do nothing about the issue. There is no grey area as far as I can tell. It's just all greenlit by company that must not really care about integrity.
    Then why are you even here? To whine and stir the pot? You're welcome to leave the game at any time if it's such a joke to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Don't care, I represent the people he is targeting. I cleared P1S and P2S without any addons or even discord, invalidated their position entirely just by existing.

    I'm very calm, are you?
    "It's okay for MY side to throw out insults because we're on the side of INTEGRITY!"

    Hint: If your side has to resort to attacks and insults because people disagree with you, you're not very high on the integrity chart. And the anti-mod people have thrown out WAY more insults in these threads.

    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Isn't red mage the easiest class in game? You use addons, play the easiest class, and attack people who cleared content for a few weeks. Never cared to get it on farm status, never cared to parse, never cared about anything other than clearing it.

    You are a walking infraction and you're for sure going to get banned over this thread. Take care buddy, the community will be better off without your toxicity. Hope you find a new hobby to replace this one you're about to lose.
    Once again, no idea what you're talking about LOL. There are quite a few jobs easier than RDM.
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    Last edited by Zebraoracle; 02-04-2023 at 10:59 AM.

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