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    Quote Originally Posted by Delis View Post
    I don't see using ACT as cheating. It takes the battle log that is already available to us and gives us a more readable version of it. If I really wanted to, I could sit down go through the battle log with my calculator and figure out your dps for a fight. That information is already in my battle log, ACT just makes it easier to read.
    This is one of the most disingenuous points anyone could ever make. You can not physically do your rotation, and calculate the numbers flying on your screen with your calculator at the same time. You could not do this real time. It doesn't matter who you are. Stop making this cringe post over and over. ACT makes it realtime, ACT makes it automated, ACT makes it possible. Nobody in the world can do what you are suggesting. You can't do what you say you could "if you really wanted to". What a delusional remark that keeps being parrotted over and over for some insanely inappropriate reason.

    "ACT just makes it easier to read" lol. Cope with being a cheater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    This is one of the most disingenuous points anyone could ever make. You can not physically do your rotation, and calculate the numbers flying on your screen with your calculator at the same time. You could not do this real time. It doesn't matter who you are. Stop making this cringe post over and over. ACT makes it realtime, ACT makes it automated, ACT makes it possible. Nobody in the world can do what you are suggesting. You can't do what you say you could "if you really wanted to". What a delusional remark that keeps being parrotted over and over for some insanely inappropriate reason.

    "ACT just makes it easier to read" lol. Cope with being a cheater.
    Oh I get it, its called ACT because you can still "act" in combat while you're calculating numbers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    This is one of the most disingenuous points anyone could ever make. You can not physically do your rotation, and calculate the numbers flying on your screen with your calculator at the same time. You could not do this real time. It doesn't matter who you are. Stop making this cringe post over and over. ACT makes it realtime, ACT makes it automated, ACT makes it possible. Nobody in the world can do what you are suggesting. You can't do what you say you could "if you really wanted to". What a delusional remark that keeps being parrotted over and over for some insanely inappropriate reason.

    "ACT just makes it easier to read" lol. Cope with being a cheater.
    Of course you can't do it during a fight. No where did I say that. I am talking about after the fight. Which is where ACT comes into play. Most people don't pay attention to ACT during the fight because you cant really do much during the fight to fix issues, you can look at your dps number during the fight but it is meaningless in the moment because you can't just press a button and fix it. Its after the fight, when you are looking through the logs to break down the fight, which is what I was talking about. People who don't use it seem to think we stare at the program during the fight which isn't the case its a turn it on and forget about it till after the fight thing. You may glance at it from time to time but for the most part it just sits there going unnoticed till you wipe and or beat the fight and can look at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delis View Post
    Of course you can't do it during a fight. No where did I say that. I am talking about after the fight. Which is where ACT comes into play. Most people don't pay attention to ACT during the fight because you cant really do much during the fight to fix issues, you can look at your dps number during the fight but it is meaningless in the moment because you can't just press a button and fix it. Its after the fight, when you are looking through the logs to break down the fight, which is what I was talking about. People who don't use it seem to think we stare at the program during the fight which isn't the case its a turn it on and forget about it till after the fight thing. You may glance at it from time to time but for the most part it just sits there going unnoticed till you wipe and or beat the fight and can look at it.
    I play WoW and use damage meters where it's not against ToS. You can't pretend this argument is valid with someone who knows better. Try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    I play WoW and use damage meters where it's not against ToS. You can't pretend this argument is valid with someone who knows better. Try again.
    You actually can make that argument because ACT doesn't work like Recount. Maybe learn how it works before crying about it. The amount of people talking about mods in these threads while having no idea how any of them work is freaking wild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    You actually can make that argument because ACT doesn't work like Recount. Maybe learn how it works before crying about it.
    Shows dps and damage percentile in real time. It works exactly like recount only with different ui and maybe less features. It's hard to say because I don't break ToS and am unfamiliar with cheats. I can see from a simple screenshot that it is functionally the exact same as recount or details though: a real time performance metric.

    If you really believe that having real time access to your performance won't influence your gameplay in a positive way, you're just out of touch and clearly coping with using a performance enhancer. "I still have to press the buttons", yeah, and you're doing it with external assists telling you exactly how proficient you are doing real time. If you didn't have these assists, you would have to just base your performance on your own natural ability and nothing else. Everyone who has used a real time damage meter knows that the real time feedback makes your performance way tighter. Then there is the toxic comparisons we make against other players while we're on top. It's just not good for the game, and it's not in line with the fundamental values of fair play.

    This game is a joke, just like every other mmo that supports addons like this. They say one thing, but then do nothing about the issue. There is no grey area as far as I can tell. It's just all greenlit by company that must not really care about integrity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    This game is a joke, just like every other mmo that supports addons like this. They say one thing, but then do nothing about the issue. There is no grey area as far as I can tell. It's just all greenlit by company that must not really care about integrity.


    SE has a million and one problems at a fundamental level, but this isn't even on the long list of things that they need to fix, both as a company and with this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    That's an interesting theory but we'll see how it plays out my memerman. You're defending breaking ToS on the official forums. Not a good look and kinda sketchy to be honest. Liable to get actioned lol.
    I will be just fine. I haven't done anything report worthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post


    SE has a million and one problems at a fundamental level, but this isn't even on the long list of things that they need to fix, both as a company and with this game.
    That's an interesting theory but we'll see how it plays out my memerman. You're defending breaking ToS on the official forums. Not a good look and kinda sketchy to be honest. Liable to get actioned lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Shows dps and damage percentile in real time. It works exactly like recount only with different ui and maybe less features. It's hard to say because I don't break ToS and am unfamiliar with cheats. I can see from a simple screenshot that it is functionally the exact same as recount or details though: a real time performance metric.

    If you really believe that having real time access to your performance won't influence your gameplay in a positive way, you're just out of touch and clearly coping with using a performance enhancer. "I still have to press the buttons", yeah, and you're doing it with external assists telling you exactly how proficient you are doing real time. If you didn't have these assists, you would have to just base your performance on your own natural ability and nothing else. Everyone who has used a real time damage meter knows that the real time feedback makes your performance way tighter. Then there is the toxic comparisons we make against other players while we're on top. It's just not good for the game, and it's not in line with the fundamental values of fair play.
    Again, you have no idea how ACT works and now you're resorting to strawman arguments because I called you out on this. The numbers on ACT aren't what tell you stuff, it's when you upload it to FFLogs, ESPECIALLY if you're a job like dancer, because there are two different types of DPS in this game.

    This game is a joke, just like every other mmo that supports addons like this. They say one thing, but then do nothing about the issue. There is no grey area as far as I can tell. It's just all greenlit by company that must not really care about integrity.
    Then why are you even here? To whine and stir the pot? You're welcome to leave the game at any time if it's such a joke to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Don't care, I represent the people he is targeting. I cleared P1S and P2S without any addons or even discord, invalidated their position entirely just by existing.

    I'm very calm, are you?
    "It's okay for MY side to throw out insults because we're on the side of INTEGRITY!"

    Hint: If your side has to resort to attacks and insults because people disagree with you, you're not very high on the integrity chart. And the anti-mod people have thrown out WAY more insults in these threads.

    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Isn't red mage the easiest class in game? You use addons, play the easiest class, and attack people who cleared content for a few weeks. Never cared to get it on farm status, never cared to parse, never cared about anything other than clearing it.

    You are a walking infraction and you're for sure going to get banned over this thread. Take care buddy, the community will be better off without your toxicity. Hope you find a new hobby to replace this one you're about to lose.
    Once again, no idea what you're talking about LOL. There are quite a few jobs easier than RDM.
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    Last edited by Zebraoracle; 02-04-2023 at 10:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Again, you have no idea how ACT works and now you're resorting to strawman arguments because I called you out on this. The numbers on ACT aren't what tell you stuff, it's when you upload it to FFLogs, ESPECIALLY if you're a job like dancer, because there are two different types of DPS in this game.



    Then why are you even here? To whine and stir the pot? You're welcome to leave the game at any time if it's such a joke to you.
    "yeah well...nobody's laughing..."

    <cue dramatic sad music>
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