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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcg55ss View Post
    It's also illegal to mod in Japan, according to Japan association of copyright for computer software illegally modding a game or console is possible by up 5 years in jail and up to $5 million yen if caught. They fall under the unfair competition prevention law
    True, but two wrongs don't make a right. Square don't get to illegally access computers just because somebody MIGHT have modded. Law don't work like that.

    And that's WHY it breaks down into only those two questions. Everything else is a side argument that don't really matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Fine don't call it cheating nevertheless it is a prohibited action within FFXIV end of the day it is something they devs have repeatedly asked the community to not use or do in of form of don't use or be open about the use of third party add-ons or tools.
    Going by the ToS, Discord is against the ToS. Can we ban discord? I would love for some push to talk features in this game that can be moderated by GMs rather than a random discord server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    What I can say is that everyone above 90% parse is cheating, and probably even everyone above 80%.

    Good luck competing with people who cheat when you don't. Parses are based on the community's performance, it's not some hypothetical. It is based on the state of reality. The reality is that cheating is widespread in this game, so much that people feel entitled to defend breaking ToS on the official forums openly.
    That's the most hilarious take I've read all day.
    And slightly overused. "Everyone who is better than me must be cheating" is as old as gaming itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    That's the most hilarious take I've read all day.
    And slightly overused. "Everyone who is better than me must be cheating" is as old as gaming itself.
    Lol.

    Lmao even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    That's the most hilarious take I've read all day.
    And slightly overused. "Everyone who is better than me must be cheating" is as old as gaming itself.
    It's kind of like blaming the game for "cheating" every time we got a game over as a kid, which I'm sure we all did at some point or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It's kind of like blaming the game for "cheating" every time we got a game over as a kid, which I'm sure we all did at some point or another.
    Erm, we call it lag now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It's kind of like blaming the game for "cheating" every time we got a game over as a kid, which I'm sure we all did at some point or another.
    Yep. Definitely called Tetris unfair when I was a kid. Or some levels on Mario. I think I grew out of it when I reached my teens, though.
    Looks like some people didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Going by the ToS, Discord is against the ToS. Can we ban discord? I would love for some push to talk features in this game that can be moderated by GMs rather than a random discord server.
    The fun part about that is that plenty of countries have stuff that contradict their own constitutions. For example, several countries have an ID card... and in their constitution there's very likely a line that says that citizens should not be assigned a serial number as personal identification.
    Historically, there's a reason for that. Practically speaking, logistics needs to sort out large groups of people efficiently.

    So, yes, it's normal for SE to not persecute every single add-on or third party software used in conjunction with the game. Regardless of whether it adds to it, modifies it, or generally affects gameplay in any way like a Discord voice call. Because it'd be asinine to do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It's kind of like blaming the game for "cheating" every time we got a game over as a kid, which I'm sure we all did at some point or another.
    Ok, no, to hell with God of War though, that part to get Aphrodite's necklace with the spikes and the rock we need to push was unfair and it shouldn't oneshot you for the rock being displaced because of collision physics!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    True, but two wrongs don't make a right. Square don't get to illegally access computers just because somebody MIGHT have modded. Law don't work like that.

    And that's WHY it breaks down into only those two questions. Everything else is a side argument that don't really matter.
    I mean it does because cheating there can have REAL LIFE consequences...in most countries it's just bsn from game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcg55ss View Post
    I mean it does because cheating there can have REAL LIFE consequences...in most countries it's just bsn from game
    ...no, that's not how laws work. You don't respond to a crime by doing something illegal. It doesn't miraculously turn your actions legal. This isn't even self-defence.
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