Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

[Shialan]

Sure i would, i run no software id need to hide lol

Also we do deserve it.

So, you wouldn't mind opening a session in Teamviewer for me and letting me look through all your installed programms, your files on ALL your connected hard drives and which programms access the files for FF XIV while it is running?

[TaleraRistain]

I play on PC and don't use a single mod or third party tool or anything. I play the game completely vanilla. I would be opposed to these programs because those who are intent on getting around them will get around them and these would only end up frustrating and harming the majority of the playerbase.

[Vahlnir]

So, you wouldn't mind opening a session in Teamviewer for me and letting me look through all your installed programms, your files on ALL your connected hard drives and which programms access the files for FF XIV while it is running?

Yeah. Just because I have nothing to hide, doesn't mean I want some random person going through my stuff. It's a matter of respecting personal boundaries. Anyone who has to come out and say "I have nothing to hide" as a response in a debate like this usually has something to hide, or they are just ignorant.

[hynaku]

I'm not I have played few other mmorpg's that has had then. I never did have one problem playing them.

[Zebraoracle]

An anti-cheat isn’t “invasive” in the way that you think. On a basic level, the game scans its own files to make sure they match the official ones. This is the same method used when you “verify game file integrity” in Steam or other launchers. It’s also how VAC operates. In fact, the entire system can run server-side. There’s no “scanning” that needs to be performed on your hardware. And AFAIK, a game has a legal and technical right to access its own files.

Also, have people not considered the sheer difference in magnitude between the above system and Mare? Which not only scans your files, but allows arbitrary downloads and code injection onto your client? In addition to uploading information from your client to others? In addition to sharing you and your alts’ statuses? On some dude’s private PC in his basement, no less (no one knows who or what runs Mare). Far, far more intrusive and yet 20,000 people are running Mare at any given time. A large portion of the FFXIV community welcomes intrusiveness. An anti-cheat would relieve them of that.

First, it's invasive because of the previously stated reasons in the thread (the impact it might have on game performance being one of the biggest ones).

Second, do you use MARE (rhetorical question, don't answer it, not trying to bait anyone into incriminating themselves)? It doesn't just download mods from any person running it, you and a specific user have to share your own personal personal codes, something you're opting in of your own accord, not having forced on you.

[angienessyo]

Considering many games I've played had performance issues due to anti cheat (Monster Hunter Iceborne and Elden Ring being the most recent examples) absolutely not. Plus people are always able to find ways around anti cheat so there's no point.

[Deceptus]

Yeah. Just because I have nothing to hide, doesn't mean I want some random person going through my stuff. It's a matter of respecting personal boundaries. Anyone who has to come out and say "I have nothing to hide" as a response in a debate like this usually has something to hide, or they are just ignorant.

Seriously, "if you have nothing to hide, consent to a mandatory search" is a terrible mindset.

[Mcg55ss]

the absolute smooth brains of people using "wElL i DoN't HaVe AnYtHiNg To HiDe!" as an argument.

No the smooth brains is the "Imma quit if they scan my PC" like EVERY ONLINE GAME DOESN'T ALREADY...hell 99% of the online games on steam HAVE ANTICHEAT, hell even FALL GUYS has a anticheat system. The fact that some people really act like that is the reason they would quit is freakin hilarious, what are you gonna do on your PC never touch the internet again? Why bother getting a PC get a console then. If you game ONLINE you should EXPECT a anticheat to try and keep the integrity of the game. Does it have a chance of false positive yea, does it happen as often as babies on the forums are making it out to be LOL NO. Does it lag the game and causes issues? Not really unless you are running on a REALLY outdated system it hardly even uses any CPU or RAM like i said most games use anticheat already and it has virtually NO change upon the game. The question would be what Anticheat would be right for a MMO because that would be something interesting on which they would choose to do.

[Mcg55ss]

First, it's invasive because of the previously stated reasons in the thread (the impact it might have on game performance being one of the biggest ones).

Second, do you use MARE (rhetorical question, don't answer it, not trying to bait anyone into incriminating themselves)? It doesn't just download mods from any person running it, you and a specific user have to share your own personal personal codes, something you're opting in of your own accord, not having forced on you.

which is why there are literally thousands of games on steam with anticheat and no performance issues.

[MilkieTea]

Yes. Outside of what's already been said here, I already deal with EAC or other anticheat problems daily when it comes to drivers they don't understand/aren't on their "safe list" (or w/e, however it works.) I have an offbrand drawing tablet with offbrand, kind of scary looking drivers and these anticheats regularly falseflag and refuse to load up some games because of it. This means that whenever I want to play a game with these anticheats, I've got to uninstall the drivers. Eventually I just decided to install the drivers only when I'm about to sit down and draw, rather than have them on so that I can doodle whenever.