Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

[Absimiliard]

If it's any indication, EAC was bypassed quite literally the same day Elden Ring dropped. The same thing happens in every other game that uses it. Within the first week, if not the first day, people have already circumvented it in such a way as to be able to play online without any repercussions whatsoever. Denuvo anti-tamper doesn't fare much better. To make matters worse, both of these options are excessively invasive in function and intention. Likewise, both demonstrably impact performance while running. Both also have a tendency to continue running in the background even after the associated application has been closed.

There are ways SE could check for things on their end, but that would only work with things that interact with the server. I believe they already do this to some extent, but what they can detect appears to be quite limited. Client-side modifications and things that function by reading the game's data would be unaffected, meaning practically everything people employ now would go totally undetected and untouched anyway. Even something so minimally invasive and straightforward as this would require a considerable amount of reworking of systems on their part.

Were they to want to lock the client and files down to make it far harder for people to read and/or modify them, they'd have to rebuild the entire game from the ground up. ....And people would find a workaround almost immediately. I really don't see any way for it to be even remotely worth it for them to take this approach. It would almost definitely require diverting resources to the game that are better served elsewhere, and SE seems to be spread pretty thin as it is.

[Vahlnir]

Some people have ACT open and just bulk upload everything that they did for that day. It's not done against any specific person and most people thinking they get target will be wrong about that. In truth most people having ACT open dont actually care. At most they will vent to their friends on discord but afterwards they will simply forget they have ever interacted with you.

Yeah, I kind of figured it was something like that. I was just making a mockery of the "threats" being made to show how ridiculous they sound, and I'm not even trying to be subtle about it.

[Bobby66]

Imagine actually calling not pushing buttons natural. Also I don't play with mods, on PS5. Sucks to suck don't it, bad?



A clear and a carry are vastly different things. Are you actually trying to defend a ~70% uptime Sage, yikes. This type of oxygen thief doesn't want people to have ACT because it hides how garbage they are



Your parse is bad because you don't know how to play well, no other reason. Again, I utterly outperform you and guess what? No add-ons. Git gud, no johns



This post outright confirmed you're a clown better than anything I could've posted



Then by all means, find me a good player that is against mods that are completely fine. The point is bads oppose them because they bundle everything up with ACT, which exposes them for the oxygen thieves they are



In order to be cheating an unfair advantage MUST be present. If it's not it doesn't matter what anyone says, it's not cheating. SE being dogmatic doesn't mean people cheated. Not every rule is valid. Trying to argue "Well it's the law" is beyond stupid. At some point in history in most of the world it was legal to own people as property, we going to defend that next?

Missing my point, what I am saying is in the eyes of SE zooming put past their allowed distance is cheating. Sure it is 100% dumb I agree with you. Issue is those who created and enforce the law have a certain view just because we as a community said it should not be or SE is overreacting all of which are true. We as players must understand that if we choose to broadcast or for some reason for usage of prohibited items to speak is caught and they choose to punish us it is 100% our fault and is 100% valid since we all agree to the ToS.

I your slave example is a weird comparison, not 100% well versed in US history but to my knowing you would not get introuble for not having slaves, and those that freed them did assume all the risknin doing so and probably understand what they were doing went against the established norms of the time. If you are willing to become a martyr to the chose awesome, just don't be shocked if those that enforce the rules tell you are wrong and thus will be punished.

That is my issue with all this they should have just said yeah we used tools to help us so what of it? The stance on such things is dumb we welcome our punishment, nevertheless we still got world first. Don't try to pass it off because others used we had to use.

To me this largely boils down to person not paying their toll bills. Some local reported them and now their car is being towed cause today those that enforce the rules felt like enforcing them. You can argue till you are blue in the face that the original agreement was a toll would only be required until we paid off the bridge thus we should not have to pay since the money put into the bridge has been paid off. They are technically 100% correct but problem is if those that enforce the rules say you are wrong you are wrong by most practicable standards, and thus should not be surprised or try to make excuses for your actions. You darn well knew you were doing wrong.

As a mod user, I understand we assume all the risk, if I get caught I know I could lose my account or get a strike that is life.

[HeyMcFly]

Ok, so let's break this down, you can only use mods if your on pc master race, I'm a console peasent so I can't use them, even If I wanted to use the harmless mods you describe, or if I was colour blind, can't use mods on console unless it's implemented by square.
Second, all mods are banned, no excuses, no exceptions, look at the last statement from yoshida.
So in admitting you use any kind of mod, independent of circumstances you are breaking the rules and should be banned.
Remember you are paying for a service and agreed to the TOS, you have no rights.
Third get down from your high horse pc master race, stop using banned tools ( all of them are banned ) and start flooding the forums with your requests.
Learn Japanese and go to that part of the forum and make your request there to gain more momentum.
I honestly wish that everyone that uses mods was banned at the same time. If there was noone left to play besides console players , that would still be fine with me.

sheesh;
Get off your console high horse & cry everyone a river

[Ransu]

What I can say is that everyone above 90% parse is cheating, and probably even everyone above 80%.

Good luck competing with people who cheat when you don't. Parses are based on the community's performance, it's not some hypothetical. It is based on the state of reality. The reality is that cheating is widespread in this game, so much that people feel entitled to defend breaking ToS on the official forums openly.

I know several 80 and 90% parsers that play on console, so your statement is kind of nonsense. God forbid some people are just actually good at the game and pay attention to mechanics and what their tooltips say for their rotations.

[ICountFrom0]

I mean it does because cheating there can have REAL LIFE consequences...in most countries it's just bsn from game

Again, no.

Squenix is not law enforcement.

If they break the law, that's on them.
Even if they catch somebody else breaking the law, while they are breaking the law, that's still on them.

No. You don't get to "what if" on this.

Two questions.

1. Are you okay with square enix breaking the law to scan in Japan.
2. If they can't scan in japan, are you okay with everywhere else in the world not being able to use addons while JP players continue to use them.

That's really the crux of this.

Everything else, just set dressing and semantics.

[Mcg55ss]

Yes, because an unfair advantage wasn't present. Unless that IS present it doesn't matter what Yoshida says. That's a fact, not an opinion. Do educate yourself of the difference

So lets see can a unmodded player see the WHOLE platform without moving their camera...Did this mod allow you to see the full platform without having to move your camera...... you know that that is A CLEAR ADVANTAGE OOOOOOOMMMMMMMGGGGGG. LOL Why not educate yourself before talking you are just making yourself look like a fool.

[FireMage]

So lets see can a unmodded player see the WHOLE platform without moving their camera...Did this mod allow you to see the full platform without having to move your camera...... you know that that is A CLEAR ADVANTAGE OOOOOOOMMMMMMMGGGGGG. LOL Why not educate yourself before talking you are just making yourself look like a fool.

I wish you would read. I never denied they had an advantage, I denied that it was an UNFAIR advantage. Because it's not one. Maybe you should be working on your reading comprehension before you post again

[Mcg55ss]

Again, no.

Squenix is not law enforcement.

If they break the law, that's on them.
Even if they catch somebody else breaking the law, while they are breaking the law, that's still on them.

No. You don't get to "what if" on this.

Two questions.

1. Are you okay with square enix breaking the law to scan in Japan.
2. If they can't scan in japan, are you okay with everywhere else in the world not being able to use addons while JP players continue to use them.

That's really the crux of this.

Everything else, just set dressing and semantics.

The crux of this is
#1 I don't play in Japan so idc what they do considering if they are caught modding it is a worse consequence than crimes like grand theft auto and armed robbery in America.
also
#2 Japan is very weird culturally vs America, i mean a guy was arrested for selling a modded save to a SINGLE PLAYER game that just gave you items earlier than normal in Japan. So i expect Mods to be few and far between compared to westerners as they see the need to use them as a crutch for weak (probably why the harrasses unnamed for the dishonor they brought to the point its been reported some have deleted their accounts)

[Mcg55ss]

I wish you would read. I never denied they had an advantage, I denied that it was an UNFAIR advantage. Because it's not one. Maybe you should be working on your reading comprehension before you post again

So you REALLY are in so much denial you think that being able to do/ see something that others clearly cannot is not a unfair advantage LOL my god you are a delusional one.