Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

[Vejj]

i dont have any problems if SE would add different tools to avoid mods and parsers.
I think players who do the hard content will also be able to counter the manageable abilities of the boss encounters without an addon in the ACT that constantly tells you what to do. Let alone work on their playstyle to keep the DPS high. If not... well then I guess it's "git gud"?

[CelestiCer]

To me it seems like 95% of all Third party tools/mods purpose are " Non-Combat ", making I guess the tiny 5% of programs used for Raiding the once that really gets hammered by both the community and Square. If they added the following? I am pretty sure players would be more open to the idea.

Non-Combat adjustments and features added

• Placing housing wherever you please using x y z coordinates
• Limitless Glamour Dresser, from anywhere.
• Orchestrion music player anywhere, as long as you unlocked the soundtrack
• Music that is playing is noted at the server tab
• Location reminder of where you are exactly at the server tab
• Updated Friends list
• Updated available Hairstyles and customizations
• Updated Search functionality and faster way to check adventure plates
• Updated Portraits and friendlier to use
• Market Board update
• Party ready checker
• Updated Chat functionalities
• Chat Bubbles
• Being allowed customize every part of the HUD
• Updated search for Emotes
• Being allowed to color every piece of Glamour ever
• Being allowed to color every Fashion accessory ever
• Mouse tracker
• Updated features for color blind people
• Timer schedules updated and allowing you to add your own reminders
• Name tags / FC tags customization options
• Precise highlighted stat tiers of each of your stats in character menu
• Precise highlighted stat improvements when comparing Gear
• Update Hrothgar and Vierra hair
• Updated Crafting interface
• Updated Minimap
• Updated Partyfinder
• Updated........

The list goes on but its endless on how many things are improved upon or updated through available plugins/addons/mods for when you're not combat. And Square has to compete against all of it. Be it majority really don't need any of it to play the game? but you're playing FFXIV essentially on crack, and taking that crack away is not going to be received well.


In Combat adjustments and features added

• Updated Party-list, functionalities and customizations
• Showing Party-members mitigation/selfheal cooldowns on party list
• Option to remove name plates of party members for Job icons
• Death Recap to showcase how you died to what
• Ping Reducer (XIVAlex/NoClippy)
• Personal DPS meter

I believe this is about what raiders want regarding " Combat features " when you're in Combat. Which is not a lot actually now that I think about it... As much as the Personal DPS meter is a heated debate, there's enough demand for it by players to use it to compare their performances to at least themselves to self-improve and have it in some way be recorded for themselves. FFLogs is evidence for a very large demand for it and if this is denied, unfortunately Square is going to just lose players to it. Not a lot, but paid subscriptions to them are still subscriptions.

[Midareyukki]

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That list is endless. Especially when you get to character customization. Some stuff is understandable that they aren't in the game properly, since this is an MMO and you kind of need to render everything rather than boast how many polygons your team can make xD
But some stuff is pretty standard and not available to every race. A more robust character creator would let you use those options, but the one we have now is self-limiting. The options you have available on one race won't be in another, even if they theoretically share the same aspect (muscle sliders). Because that slider got repurposed for something else that the new race has that the other race didn't. So overall, character customization can't be built upon in the current system because it would have to sacrifice something else in the process.

Plus, Square Enix has been implementing features originally allowed by third party tools for a while now. You think showing what's physical and magic damage was all they did? Keep in mind that there are tools out there to modify your character and the environment in Gpose, and parts of it got added into the game when they started gaining traction. Especially the feature to freeze the time and weather. That wasn't there, it only got implemented when that posing tool rose in popularity back in Stormblood.

...btw, for the group that insists content shouldn't be cleared with stuff allowed by third party tools, explain to me the purpose of SE revealing what's physical and magic damage if not for mitigation purposes. Clearly Square Enix deemed that feature to be popular in demand (after like ten years of people insisting btw). Now there's no real need to use third party tools to reveal that. Seems to me the minmaxy part of the game is full force, Square just needs to figure out which to implement and which not to.

Which brings us to parsing. Honestly, what if they do implement parsing tools officially into the game, but make it safe to use? It'd be available only in high-end content. You'd only disclose your parses if you yourself wished it, and to select people (to the party, to your friends group, or fully public). And anyone caught coercing you to reveal them against your will would be considered harassing. That way you guys wouldn't need to feel anxious about your parses being public and being used to harass you, which is already prohibited anyway (unlike WoW, the devs actually do hammer down on people who harass you with parses, so really you have the power to make those guys shut up).

Plenty of stuff that third party tools have done have been slowly implemented into the game. Clearly SE sees the benefit of them and wants to bring them into a more legal side. Which is exactly what everyone wants. If there's any criticism I have is that it seems Square isn't looking into fixing their UI and QoL with proper thought and feedback. People have been asking for the Magic/Physical thing for years, and they only implement it because third party tools enabled it. That's not right. People suggest these things for so long. Why do we have to wait for a given tool to make them available for Square Enix to realize that this is what fans wanted?

That doesn't mean Square will enable cheating though, like zoomhacks.
But parsing? Yeah, there's a beneficial reason to implement it. They just need to do so responsibly.
And everything else? Yeah, there's a reason people insist "Square, third party tools can do this, please work on making it your own". Just go into any viera/hrothgar thread, someone at some point said as much.

[SillyCrow]

If it's anything like EAC it's gonna cause all my other programs to slow to a crawl. Forget trying to open Firefox while playing 7 Days to Die, it takes 30 second just to open Firefox. 10 seconds for the simple Notepad.

[Johners]

Square Enix should probably do something about the fact one of the popular plugins, Gshade, now includes malware.

[Midareyukki]

Square Enix should probably do something about the fact one of the popular plugins, Gshade, now includes malware.

pfft

"Anything could be in the payload, you were responsible for triggering it", yeah good luck holding that one in court xD

Pretty sure the EU has a few things to say about that. *cough* GDPR *cough*

[sharknado]

pfft

"Anything could be in the payload, you were responsible for triggering it", yeah good luck holding that one in court xD

Pretty sure the EU has a few things to say about that. *cough* GDPR *cough*

GDPR is user data protection and has nothing to do with malicious software directly. Also downloading and running an app just to notice it does not do what you expect it to do isn't something any legal system will care about. If it caused damages then depending on app EULA/whatever terms and country you and the app legal representative are you may have some case but that's usually not the case as even Microsoft gives you Windows "as is" and doesn't take any responsibility if the software causes damages or whatever for you and if it does not break country law it's fine.

[Midareyukki]

GDPR is user data protection and has nothing to do with malicious software directly. Also downloading and running an app just to notice it does not do what you expect it to do isn't something any legal system will care about. If it caused damages then depending on app EULA/whatever terms and country you and the app legal representative are you may have some case but that's usually not the case as even Microsoft gives you Windows "as is" and doesn't take any responsibility if the software causes damages or whatever for you and if it does not break country law it's fine.

Yeah, that I know. It's meant to be about data protection. However, if the malware in question collects data, then yeah it'd be a violation. Though... probably not for the malware itself, but for the collection/storage of data.

Mhhh, maybe "NotNite" misunderstood Marot's statement. It seems, that "NotNite" executed a functionality, which was not intended to be used. Because it's in an Alpha state or whatever. Gshade noticed it, that this functionallity was used and it killed itself. And if Gshade kills itself then it also terminates the application, which uses Gshade.

And yes, Marot's statements are not helpful in such a situation. Because i can smell his arrogance. And for non software developers it still sounds very cryptic and the people have no clue what is going on. I also have to guess, what Marot propably meant.

x_x why be condescending in the first place, just explain to people "No, something happened and our tool shut down because of it". It's not hard, doesn't take any more of his time than it does to be a jerk...

[Padudu]

Yeah, that I know. It's meant to be about data protection. However, if the malware in question collects data, then yeah it'd be a violation. Though... probably not for the malware itself, but for the collection/storage of data.



x_x why be condescending in the first place, just explain to people "No, something happened and our tool shut down because of it". It's not hard, doesn't take any more of his time than it does to be a jerk...

Just to add, yeah this was intentional LMAO

[Absimiliard]

Square Enix should probably do something about the fact one of the popular plugins, Gshade, now includes malware.

It would behoove you to censor the names in your screenshot, as otherwise the post might get taken down.

GDPR is user data protection and has nothing to do with malicious software directly. Also downloading and running an app just to notice it does not do what you expect it to do isn't something any legal system will care about. If it caused damages then depending on app EULA/whatever terms and country you and the app legal representative are you may have some case but that's usually not the case as even Microsoft gives you Windows "as is" and doesn't take any responsibility if the software causes damages or whatever for you and if it does not break country law it's fine.

Now JAPAN on the other hand... They do have laws against this kind of thing, and those laws are pursued with such fervor that I genuinely wonder if the lawyers over there don't derive immense joy from it. In fact, quite a few countries do have laws in place that would make this very thing tremendously illegal, though I suspect most wouldn't be willing to invest the funds to get someone extradited over something so minor. Applications must be malicious indeed if most countries are to be expected to act, even if the law on the matter is clear.