Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

[sharknado]

It was at one time, wow does use an anticheat now because add-ons got to where they would show you the layout of abilities before the ability came up so you knew the safe spot every time in fights.

If an addon was able to solve a mechanic it was usually quickly broken by Blizzard. Not to mention they do look closely at teams participating in the "world first" race and can even react when something unexpected happens.

Aside from that FF14 going more and more challenging in terms of mechanics will only force the development of third-party tools to aid players with them. The same thing happened in WoW where addons didn't have to be hidden from public view. There will be more and more clips leaking out showing such tools and plugins and I would imagine at some point SE will get triggered to a point where they will actually take pro-active action and add a detection system to check if assets or executable was modified or they will allow for addons and start the same somewhat dumb dependency of designing EX/Savage with addons in mind (and then even "standard" content) and players having to use them and put more and more time in their development. Static won't be able to start progging without having someone that can code required triggers and addons.

[AnnRam]

Imagine caring about what people does against PVE content.

[Mcg55ss]

The WOW anticheat is Warden, and it was first added to Blizzard games in 2005, long before the AVR addon began trivialising mechanics in the Icecrown Citadel raid in 2010.

In fact, the AVR AddOn did not do anything prevented by the Warden anticheat scanning, and instead used entirely-legal API functions within WOW's sanctioned AddOn system.

Shortly after the ICC release, the WOW AddOn API itself was actually directly-changed to specifically break AVR's functionality.

Cept it didn't complete break it, has returned a few times or something similar (mythic archimode had something similar I believe)

[Sesera]

No I would be fine with it I don't have anything to hide and why not put camera in our houses so police can monitor criminal. Since most people don't partake in criminal activities it should be ok. /s

[ICountFrom0]

This comes down to two questions:

1. Would I be okay with them violating the law in japan?
2. If they can't scan in japan, would I be okay with JP players having the unfair advantage of cheats when the rest of the world can't?

[KageTokage]

If there was a way they could do it without actively impeding legitimate players, then sure, but history has shown that automated anti-cheats tend to hinder normal players as much as if not more then the cheaters due to how easily they can be circumvented.

I mostly wish they'd come down harder on the people using bots and other forms of cheating that are readily observable in-game and not only visible because someone is streaming gameplay footage.

[AmpelioB]

yes, like i do with any other game that does that

[Johners]

I don't get all the FUD around anti-cheat in a multiplayer game. I've played many games with anti-cheats that work and don't cause any problems. My computer still works, my games work and I don't have any issues with software. I've seen people get bans because they've used the same VPN as a cheater but that was over a decade ago in some obscure FPS game that's dead now. Likewise, Luke from LTT (LinusTechTips) got banned by Blizzard's anti-cheat because he left Visual Studio open when playing (and one part of that IDE includes a memory debugger that reads the memory of running processes which is also something many legitimate cheats do).

It was at one time, wow does use an anticheat now because add-ons got to where they would show you the layout of abilities before the ability came up so you knew the safe spot every time in fights. I never use this but I remember them commenting on it and then adding an anti cheat to kill that addon and try to prevent future ones like that.

WoW's anti-cheat is separate from the add-on framework. Warden is to stop bots such as Honorbuddy (rotation bot was one function of this paid cheat back in WoD/Legion) or Tmorph (allowed you to change the model/armour of your character locally before transmog (glamour) was an official game function in Cataclysm).

Blizzard control addons and have broken things such as AVR and certain WeakAura functionality. More importantly, they can live patch the game client to change some of this behaviour without having to do server maintenance or even pushing a new download via the Battle.net launcher.

There's massive misinformation about addons in WoW and in reality, the extreme end of plugins in XIV is much more egregious than anything you can do in current World of Warcraft.

I'd say Blizzard do a much better job at enforcing their terms of service via more effective punishments. Honorbuddy ban waves in WoD/Legion were a prime example of this. It wasn't an instant permanent suspension for this, it was 6-month (first time) and 18-months (second time) suspensions alongside returning to your characters have no gear, inventory or gold (Gil in XIV).

More importantly, and SE have never seemingly done this, is that the ban wave dropped during peak raiding hours. Honorbuddy ban waves hit during peak hours when more people would be raiding etc and you'd be more likely to notice your guilds top DPS players, for example, suddenly going offline. They knew it would kill guilds etc but did it anyway.

The closest thing XIV has to this is Party Finder being less active when plugins are broken during the first few days post patch. We all know those people that suddenly don't play because their totally legitimate third party tools are broken, maybe you should think twice about them next time.

[Mcg55ss]

This comes down to two questions:

1. Would I be okay with them violating the law in japan?
2. If they can't scan in japan, would I be okay with JP players having the unfair advantage of cheats when the rest of the world can't?

It's also illegal to mod in Japan, according to Japan association of copyright for computer software illegally modding a game or console is possible by up 5 years in jail and up to $5 million yen if caught. They fall under the unfair competition prevention law

[ICountFrom0]

It's also illegal to mod in Japan, according to Japan association of copyright for computer software illegally modding a game or console is possible by up 5 years in jail and up to $5 million yen if caught. They fall under the unfair competition prevention law

True, but two wrongs don't make a right. Square don't get to illegally access computers just because somebody MIGHT have modded. Law don't work like that.

And that's WHY it breaks down into only those two questions. Everything else is a side argument that don't really matter.