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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Maybe in a 'current' expansion, but although it might not be everyone's cup of tea depending on what it is, XIV usually keeps features from old expansions relevant all the time. I'm not playing anymore so maybe that is changed in Dragonflight, but afaik WoW used to discontinue every previous expansion's features as soon as it was over.
    Uhh... I'm not sure what you mean, but most of WoW's raids were always available for people to go back to. WoW just doesn't have level sync, and AFAIK before the Cataclysm revamp of the world, the only raid that was actually removed was Naxx (which got readded in WotLK anyways).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Uhh... I'm not sure what you mean, but most of WoW's raids were always available for people to go back to. WoW just doesn't have level sync, and AFAIK before the Cataclysm revamp of the world, the only raid that was actually removed was Naxx (which got readded in WotLK anyways).
    I think they mean the 'expansion gimmick' style content being removed. Legendary weapon grind is something recent like that I heard? Where for an expansion every class had same weapon and had basically to grind to empower that and in next expansion whole feature was pertty much gone. I imagine unless Blizaard changes their course, whatever expansion gimmick there is this time will only exist for this expansion and never again. FF14 does have some 'left behind' features that didnt get updates in expansions that followed (or did but sparingly) but doesnt truly remove them ever, and you can always just go back and do that. I think some pvp content for that regard is the only exception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    I just wish that FFXIV was good enough for people. I know we're not the best MMO and that WoW has more raids, features, etc. than we do. I know that this is only a side game for most people in between breaks for their main game. I know we don't deserve much and Square Enix is a struggling company.

    But...for a brief period of time, people actually had faith in FFXIV. They didn't scoff at our lack of features, or trivialize our hardest content. They didn't trash the art style and replace it with imported abominations from Second Life. They enjoyed the game for what it was. They had fun. And some people on consoles still have fun! But that group is getting smaller as PC players get louder and more numerous. PC players seem like they hate large parts of the game, since they replace everything with third-party solutions. Are they really enjoying FFXIV, or are they enjoying what someone else made in Blender?

    Maybe someday Square Enix will realize what made FFXIV good in 2013-2020, and rekindle that magic for the next MMO. But for now, I guess FFXIV is past its prime. Maybe the rest of us should put our time in a game that's actually respected.
    Parsing has been a thing in the game since at least ARR, and people have been making cosmetic modifications to it for just as long. The PC players have always outnumbered the console players, and they've pretty much always been the loudest demographic to boot.

    As for trivializing content, I feel you are overestimating the kind of edge players can get from those tools. The most egregious of them is Cactbot, and even it can only give you warnings. None of them will play the game for you. I do not personally use or approve of Cactbot, but I'm well aware of how prevalent it is - and how often the people using it still suck even with it. Personal skill still matters, whether you're getting warnings from Cactbot or zooming your camera out to the point of absurdity with whatever that JP raid team was using.

    The above aside, I do tend to agree with you in the hope SE eventually remembers what FFXIV's golden age looked like. Unfortunately, I fear they are going to judge what people want purely by subscriber count rather than taking an objective look at the systems, cosmetics, and whatever else people had the most positive feedback about.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 02-02-2023 at 10:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anger View Post
    In light of the recent TOP issue and concerns surrounding the legitimacy of their clear - would you be opposed to anticheat software scanning your system for addons/parsers/plugins?

    This would help enforce the total and categorical ban on any third party programs used.
    Yes I would because I don't need some intrusive malware on my system because people care too much about pointless world first runs. Just let people be. Their clears have no bearing at all on your progression of end game.
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    There are some 3rd party programs that actually improve features that people have asked for for years
    Like a motion sickness camera & settings add-on that isn't even in the game.
    There are some in-game work arounds but they hardly help.

    I do not want an anti-cheat rootkit digging around my PC.

    A good way to keep people from cheating is just punish them- take away their rewards & prestige when caught & enact perma bans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    I do not want an anti-cheat rootkit digging around my PC.
    EAC will sit there and run in the background even when the game it's associated with isn't on. There's no telling what all that thing is actually looking for. Most other anti-cheats are much the same. No matter what type of anti-cheat they opted for, I'd definitely be peacing out the second it got announced.
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    Ok, so let's break this down, you can only use mods if your on pc master race, I'm a console peasent so I can't use them, even If I wanted to use the harmless mods you describe, or if I was colour blind, can't use mods on console unless it's implemented by square.
    Second, all mods are banned, no excuses, no exceptions, look at the last statement from yoshida.
    So in admitting you use any kind of mod, independent of circumstances you are breaking the rules and should be banned.
    Remember you are paying for a service and agreed to the TOS, you have no rights.
    Third get down from your high horse pc master race, stop using banned tools ( all of them are banned ) and start flooding the forums with your requests.
    Learn Japanese and go to that part of the forum and make your request there to gain more momentum.
    I honestly wish that everyone that uses mods was banned at the same time. If there was noone left to play besides console players , that would still be fine with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solimiano View Post
    Ok, so let's break this down, you can only use mods if your on pc master race, I'm a console peasent so I can't use them, even If I wanted to use the harmless mods you describe, or if I was colour blind, can't use mods on console unless it's implemented by square.
    Second, all mods are banned, no excuses, no exceptions, look at the last statement from yoshida.
    So in admitting you use any kind of mod, independent of circumstances you are breaking the rules and should be banned.
    Remember you are paying for a service and agreed to the TOS, you have no rights.
    Third get down from your high horse pc master race, stop using banned tools ( all of them are banned ) and start flooding the forums with your requests.
    Learn Japanese and go to that part of the forum and make your request there to gain more momentum.
    I honestly wish that everyone that uses mods was banned at the same time. If there was noone left to play besides console players , that would still be fine with me.
    sheesh;
    Get off your console high horse & cry everyone a river
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    Last edited by HeyMcFly; 02-03-2023 at 12:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solimiano View Post
    Text wall
    Shhh. Nobody tell them third-party tools exist for console players as well.
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    Let me rephrase, ps5 peasent, not hackable ps4... There's still mods???
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