Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

[Arrius]

I really hate this "if you're innocent you should be fine with it" mindset. How about no, the majority of us aren't doing anything wrong so don't punish us because of a select few?

"Rather let a thousand innocent die than letting a single guilty one escape.", and all. Infamous quote from the Warhammer universe.

I can see that people like to have certain mods as a QoL update.
But if you give them a inch, others will take a mile and start making mods that begin to be straight up cheating, like seeing otherwise invisible AoE markers and such.

Would it be unfair for the QoL mod users to also be put under the hammer as the obviously cheating ones? Maybe.
Yet in my opinion they need to be all reeled back in and firmly reminded of the rules regarding mods and add-ons, and they should expect no mercy or leniency if they do get caught.

You saw it already regarding toxic chats and people who wouldn't stop being horny in their adventure plates. And SE will continue to grasp around the banhammer harder from now on.

[Zfz]

I just want to point out that a lot of games have tried to have scanners that scan player systems for cheats and hacks. The result is never a success. Cheats and hacks continue to exist, while legitimate player experiences are frequently harmed. On an open system like the Windows, it is simply not going to work.

There are other things that can be done about third party tools. For example the zoom hack could possibly be countered by implementing say a culling box that allows players to see the skybox from inside the arena, but if a zoom hack is used to zoom out further than originally designed, then the player camera would naturally be outside the culling box that would cull everything in the arena, making the game display nothing at all.

I'm sure there are other programmic and level design techniques that can be used this way.

[Bobby66]

If they hold an offical World first race then I would be understand if they made those who wanted to take part to down a program to scan their PC, but even then it probably would not catch that really willing to cheat. I do think they should make it so all parties have to stream to take part though. Those that hide footage should not be considered part of the race, if you hide your progression then by no means should you be considered part of the valid race.

[SannaR]

I'm in the middle as on one hand would it be nice if it felt as though they were doing more or did a better job with dealing with cheaters? Yeah, sure. On the other hand any time I hear people talk about these anti cheat software it just never seems to do the job and just ends up bogging down people's systems.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I'm in the middle as on one hand would it be nice if it felt as though they were doing more or did a better job with dealing with cheaters? Yeah, sure. On the other hand any time I hear people talk about these anti cheat software it just never seems to do the job and just ends up bogging down people's systems.

That's the issue tbh. Client side anti cheat software is just a general annoyance to everyone. It makes games less stable or lowers performance due to additional tasks and resource usage but doesn't actually stop people from cheating in any long term sense.

What would likely work better is more transparency in punishing the cheaters. Bonus points if they can make hilarious videos like that one Rust admin that goes around messing with the cheaters he finds lol.

[Neoyoshi]

Even if I was for it, they'd never actually implement it. I will always be in favor of game devs and communities looking for ways to stop cheaters, but automated anticheat software has proven to not be the way to do it in a large mmorpg environment such as this.

Anticheat software tends to have a better impact on games with smaller player groups in a single game instance, like FPS games or Arena pvp games; where these programs can have a tighter focus on what to look for with far fewer machines/clients it has to scan.

In the end, human/manual intervention just works better for FFXIV; it's not perfect, but it's much better then the hellscape of something like XIGNCODE3 or nProtect Gameguard.

[Ranaku]

It's kinda silly to me that this question comes up every couple months or so, someday people learn that stuff like anti cheat software is illegal in japan. Same as modding btw.

Until then we will probably have people ask for this over and over again, completely oblivious to the fact that SE can't do that out of multiple reasons, be it millions lost in stock and well subs cause it would destroy every community that freely advertises this game or well lawsuits cause anti cheat software (crazy i know not the whole world is just bound to US law lol) is maybe not that legal, especially in japan where...well...the game comes from.

But i have to say it is funny to see this discussion every time this happens.

[Nanne]

people learn that stuff like anti cheat software is illegal in japan.

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Li...eat_technology
Quite many Japanese developers there (Its a list of games that use somekind of anti-cheat programs)

[Payadopa]

Innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around, yes.

[caffe_macchiato]

anti cheat software is illegal in japan.

The FFXIV forums are the only place on the internet where this claim is brought up. Can you please provide a citation?

Also, it’s legal in Japan for a game to read its own files, per the post right above yours. Yoshida designed FFXIV around WoW. How is that possible if WoW is illegal in Japan?