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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevin View Post
    I thought people were joking with the whole clicking the placard thing being a good system, but clearly you guys aren't. Placard clicking was definitely a terrible system and the lottery system should have been implemented years ago as soon as there were signs of a housing shortage. Lets face it, it's an open secret that most people used dubious ways to get houses and the devs knew it too just like they aren't blind to all the plugins/mods and even are looking at implementing quality of life elements from plugins. And the only real winners of the placard clicking were those who used dubious methods of automation who were able to at least monitor their computer all day... which begs the question that anyone still in favour of that system most definitely used those methods.

    Now, the lottery does indeed suck a lot of the time, especially when you can spend a year bidding on every plot and lose each time, then a first timer comes along and wins. More salt in the wound when you go back weeks/months later and the place hasn't been touched, not even a summoning bell.

    Hence why I proposed a system where you increase the amount of tickets after each failed bid until you win at which point it resets. Is it open for abuse as people suggest? Yes and no, people could inadvertently screw themselves over by trying to rack up tickets and then win a plot they actually didn't want which would reset their tickets back to 1. This definitely would work on normal realms. Even on Lich which seems like one of the more populated worlds in Europe, the only times you had literally hundreds of tickets was when you had literally 1 medium crop up all because the devs have disabled auto demolition and adding more wards in the future, it would likely result in most people eventually getting what they want, or at least being happy with what they have, or give them more hope at getting what they want.

    Also, add an upstairs to small houses. :3
    I would never ask for the Placard clicking back, but I certainly feel like it was a strong barrier to entry for people who "really" wanted a house. It saddens me to see people bid on plots; then do nothing with them, or simply abandon it the following week, and some don't even claim their plot when the lottery period ends.

    I wish for more barriers to entering the lottery, as the demand for plots is still insanely high.
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanJust View Post
    You might need to take off these goggles cause they are giving you some issues.
    "Fairness", depends on several factors, not just having Gil and being lucky but should also factor in effort, planning, and persistence.
    The lottery system isn't "fair and square", there are FCs taking up entire wards using that "very fair" lottery system, multiple accounts exploiting the chances with botting still evident having empty large plots.
    I lost twice to placard-bots back in the day before getting my house, and I still believe I had better odds back then compared to the current system.
    Quote Originally Posted by AlanJust View Post
    I would never ask for the Placard clicking back, but I certainly feel like it was a strong barrier to entry for people who "really" wanted a house. It saddens me to see people bid on plots; then do nothing with them, or simply abandon it the following week, and some don't even claim their plot when the lottery period ends.

    I wish for more barriers to entering the lottery, as the demand for plots is still insanely high.
    So you don't want the placard clicking system back. Good, there's hope for you yet.

    Of course there are things that can be improved, but there is no question that the current system is completely fair. Everyone gets the same opportunities. That is the definition of fair. What they do with those opportunities is their business, and anyone else's opinion on those actions is simply borne from jealousy.
    If someone wants to bid for a house simply to use it as a stop gap with an aetheryte and a retainer bell, that's their business. It's disappointing, but it's fair. You can't tell other people how to decorate their homes.
    FC's have multiple people, and therefore they get multiple opportunities to get their one single house, because it's multiple people using it, that's fair, because every FC can do the same thing.
    People who play multiple characters or pay for multiple accounts, are entitled to put their bid in for a house on each of those characters/accounts. That's what everyone is entitled to in this system. That's fair.
    They're all still playing exactly the same odds, they all have the same deal, all pay the same amount of gil, etc. You can't bot your way into a house anymore btw, everyone's ticket is equally weighted.

    I'm not opposed to raising barriers (if they're equal for everyone) to entry into housing. I've been in favour of raising the cost of Medium and Large plots to more closely match the demand for those limited plots.
    And if they were to change the rules as to how many houses can be owned per service account, then that new qualifier would also be fair under the lottery system, as it would apply equally to everyone.
    As long as the same rules apply to everyone, it's fair. The same couldn't be said of placard clicking, because it could be exploited via autoclickers, and featured the incredibly unreasonable requirement to be 100% present for up to 18 hours straight. Even Ultimate Raiding isn't that harsh.
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