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    Lottery Bad Luck Protection

    What do people think of a bad luck protection system for the lottery? For each plot you lose on, you get an extra ticket for next time until you win at which point it would be reset back to 1.

    This would mean that persistent players who will bid each week on every and any plot will increasingly have their chances increased at getting a house and it will mean newcomers and people that are picky about plots will get drastically reduced chances?

    Is this a fair system do you think?
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    I think the lotto system needs to be abolished and we can go back to placard clicking.
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    This topic was beaten up here before - and for good reason.

    The lottery is built on RNG - which is no longer RNG when you start screwing with it like you are proposing, and no longer a lottery. Now, you are proposing a 'preferred system' and an unfair one at that.

    if gaming companies could somehow implement true RNG (atmospheric noise), that would be something nice to actually have in the game, then there could really be no complaining about RNG. While a lot of people (myself included) believe RNG in gaming is flawed, it's better than absolutely nothing.

    I believe it's flawed because you have human error, and it is just controlled chaos, but built on math. Math has a funky way of synchronicity and can be stuck in a pattern of sorts. So they have to have 'provable randomness' in RNG which will keep their code 'honest'.
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    Last edited by Greyhawk; 01-31-2023 at 11:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevin View Post
    What do people think of a bad luck protection system for the lottery? For each plot you lose on, you get an extra ticket for next time until you win at which point it would be reset back to 1.

    This would mean that persistent players who will bid each week on every and any plot will increasingly have their chances increased at getting a house and it will mean newcomers and people that are picky about plots will get drastically reduced chances?

    Is this a fair system do you think?
    It doesn't matter how many times this gets mentioned. It will not work.

    Bad luck protection works in systems where it's the player competing solely against the game's RNG system to get a reward. It doesn't work when the player is competing against other players. Too many players will end up with that same bad lock protection, negating any potential benefit.
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    They should bring back placard clicking now that I got my shell fc house and a personal beach house on my main. I don't care anymore lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I think the lotto system needs to be abolished and we can go back to placard clicking.
    Yeah! Only people with no jobs and carpal tunnel should be allowed houses, they earned it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Yeah! Only people with no jobs and carpal tunnel should be allowed houses, they earned it!
    Yes, but sincerely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Yeah! Only people with no jobs and carpal tunnel should be allowed houses, they earned it!
    The only people getting houses in this scenario are the RMTers and botters reselling FC houses.
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    Don't you have something better to do with your life?

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    Bad luck protection against every other player that also had bad luck. Sounds legit.
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    I don't see what a "pity bonus" would do.

    Let's keep it simple. There's a plot for sale. 100 people bid on it, 1 ticket each. 99 lose. These 99 players each get one "pity."

    Next plot comes up for sale. Those 99 people bid on it, 2 tickets each. What's different? 98 still lose and then those 98 get a second "pity."
    Next plot comes up for sale. Those 98 people bid on it, 3 tickets each. What's different? etc etc

    I don't see what this system would really do... other than box out newer players. Which I'm sure makes great business sense for SE. It is RNG. Deal with it. For whatever it is worth, I've lost my bid in every lottery. RNG is going to RNG.
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