Return old rewards to provide more incentive for veterans to PvP.

[Towa-Musa]

Casual Crystal Conflict seems really popular right now. I was just playing it last night for two hours and there were like 50 other people queueing up as a small community. I think the game mode is really fun to play and plays a lot better for beginners than Feast did.





I'm considering making another thread soon with video evidence. Also that's just not fair to my argument. I do not and never have claimed every body in the top 100 is cheating because that's silly and ridiculous. There's no big illuminati cheating conspiracy it's just a few bad apples that spoil the bunch.

there was a couple of people with speed hacks/clipping through walls and sniping people from acrossed the map with spells lol if i had a way to record id have done so.
however i will admit that it does not happen as much to me since they're probably already crystal ranked lol

[Elfidan]

the point is about accessibility/opportunity which is a rebuttal of your statement i dont think youve cleared an ultimate to make that statement because the majority who have will say regardless of wether or not its easier with each expansion it still take tremendous effort however despite the effort the opportunity to claim those rewards will always be available so im pretty sure its not a contradiction theres also POTD

I have no interest in Ultimates personally but then I never went in for the synchronized swimming that pve has become. Ask anyone that does them regularly however and they will in fact tell you that they have become progressively easier. The same goes for PotD and HoH. What is you reasoning to bring them into the conversation when it just makes the same exact point for me.

so you admit it will cause a surge of activity yet you still dont understand its benfit, everything that requires skill and effort is a trophy so again creating a cut off makes no sense when compared to everything else, the rest of your statement is just generalization and an unusual analogy.
the point made by the garo rewards wasnt a comparison of rank rewards it was point about participation/activity, youre gaslighting at this point

All activity is not good activity. Where do you think the AFKers throwers and other degens come from? 'Ooo shiny, me want! AUGH! ME HATE PVP! me know... me afk heh heh heh.' The garo sets are a completely different animal to rated rewards. You're comparing apples to oranges. Objecting to this farce of an opinion is not in fact gaslighting. Do you feel manipulated? If discourse with me leaves you questioning your sanity, were you ever truly sane?

[RyanCousland]

I have no interest in Ultimates personally but then I never went in for the synchronized swimming that pve has become. Ask anyone that does them regularly however and they will in fact tell you that they have become progressively easier. The same goes for PotD and HoH. What is you reasoning to bring them into the conversation when it just makes the same exact point for me.

anything you do regularly obviously becomes easier because it becomes habitual however you ask those same people if UWU or UCOB was difficult when they 1st tried in either SHB or EW and i'll guarantee you that they'll say it was difficult which was the whole point, and now your moving the goalpost also if POTD or HOH are easy now then why hasnt the clear rate increased? because regardless of each expansion this content will be difficult. all of my examples refute your point, i think you need to revisit some grammar lessons as well as take some reading comprehension classes, unless you're just a forum troll with no experience in anything you're talking about (which seems to be the case) then carry on my goob

All activity is not good activity. Where do you think the AFKers throwers and other degens come from? 'Ooo shiny, me want! AUGH! ME HATE PVP! me know... me afk heh heh heh.' The garo sets are a completely different animal to rated rewards. You're comparing apples to oranges. Objecting to this farce of an opinion is not in fact gaslighting. Do you feel manipulated? If discourse with me leaves you questioning your sanity, were you ever truly sane?

if a 100 people participate simply due to the incentive of the rewards and out of those 100, 10 become interested in pvp and put in effort then yes its worth it unless you prefer to fight the same people over and over again especially in crystal (which im honestly doubting that you actually pvp), Again i made no comparison between garo and rank rewards by saying that i did, you are indeed gaslighting , i suggest you go through my response again after you take some classes, i think you might be inferring that im saying that acquiring those rewards are the same which im not my point was about the activity that garo brought which isnt a hard concept to grasp considering the evidence but again youre here to troll so carry on

[4clubbedace]

FOMO is cringe and limited items both for season passes and old rewards are nothing but anxiety inducing and painful if you whadnt even started playign the game yet. Ultimates never go away and will always be there.

IF they had something that getting to a rank got you X amount of special currency (more currency per higher rank, top 100 even more) to let you purchase some of the exclusive gear thatd be better. Since the prize never leaves but the input still rewards you for going the distance.

[Sinstrel]

IF they had something that getting to a rank got you X amount of special currency (more currency per higher rank, top 100 even more) to let you purchase some of the exclusive gear thatd be better. Since the prize never leaves but the input still rewards you for going the distance.

This feels like a no brainer. Put every PvP reward in the vendor and require large sums of wolf collars to get them (100 collars per peice of equipment for example). Let the current top 100 award a fat stack of wolf collars (500 collars for example). Then the previous ranked rewards could just cost an insane amount of collars that would basically be unfeasible to purchase without getting the fat stacks of collars from making top 100.

(You could still farm frontlines for Trophies then convert to wolf collars but that would take an insanely long time to accomplish. And if you decided to spend 100+ hours /playtime doing mindless frontlines for 1 peice of gear... well, I think you deserve it at that point anyway)

[Elfidan]

anything you do regularly obviously becomes easier because it becomes habitual however you ask those same people if UWU or UCOB was difficult when they 1st tried in either SHB or EW and i'll guarantee you that they'll say it was difficult which was the whole point, and now your moving the goalpost also if POTD or HOH are easy now then why hasnt the clear rate increased? because regardless of each expansion this content will be difficult. all of my examples refute your point, i think you need to revisit some grammar lessons as well as take some reading comprehension classes, unless you're just a forum troll with no experience in anything you're talking about (which seems to be the case) then carry on my goob

It's not too surprising that the point has sailed completely over your head. I'm not talking about repetition of clears making subsequent clears easier. I'm literally telling you that they have become easier because of how scaling works. PotD and HoH solo are exactly the same in that modifications to jobs or scaling post addition or new expansions makes them easier because your character power is greater. The clear rate has definitely increased since the beginning of all of these activities. None of you examples refute anything because you are comparing ranked rewards for demonstration of skill within a set time period to evergreen activities which can be completed any time before the game finally shuts down.

i think you need to revisit some grammar lessons as well as take some reading comprehension classes, unless you're just a forum troll with no experience in anything you're talking about (which seems to be the case) then carry on my goob

You can always tell someone is grasping at straws when they cry grammar, however you seem to have forgotten the golden rule. If you want to attack someone you cannot then make the same mistake yourself. What's worse is you follow it up by claiming I'm trolling because I happen to disagree with you. Perhaps you should go shout at a wall instead of posting to a forum? It's also pretty rich coming from someone who made a million replies to his own thread begging for paladin buffs because he's too lazy to learn to play it. What rank are you now Ryan? You're wearing pantheon gear to boot so probably don't talk about PVE while you're at it ok?

if a 100 people participate simply due to the incentive of the rewards and out of those 100, 10 become interested in pvp and put in effort then yes its worth it unless you prefer to fight the same people over and over again especially in crystal (which im honestly doubting that you actually pvp), Again i made no comparison between garo and rank rewards by saying that i did, you are indeed gaslighting , i suggest you go through my response again after you take some classes, i think you might be inferring that im saying that acquiring those rewards are the same which im not my point was about the activity that garo brought which isnt a hard concept to grasp considering the evidence but again youre here to troll so carry on

The carrot on a stick does not work in this game. It never has. People find a way to game the system because it's poorly designed. I think you should probably look words up before you use them. Just because you heard someone else say them once doesn't mean you can just fire them off because you think they sound cool. More grammar errors from the grammar nazi here as well by the way.

FOMO is cringe and limited items both for season passes and old rewards are nothing but anxiety inducing and painful if you whadnt even started playign the game yet. Ultimates never go away and will always be there.

IF they had something that getting to a rank got you X amount of special currency (more currency per higher rank, top 100 even more) to let you purchase some of the exclusive gear thatd be better. Since the prize never leaves but the input still rewards you for going the distance.

This is a common misconception. The previous seasons top one hundred rewards are not in fact FOMO. FOMO implies that you could obtain them if you had been playing but they they were limited time and removed. Thus you remain subscribed in fear of missing out on such items. These items could only be obtained by 100 people per data center. They are not FOMO.

Again, no Sinstrel. You should not have access to something that was someone else's achievement rewards by grinding.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

As long as bought with wolf marks/collars and only rewards older than 4 years.

[RyanCousland]

It's not too surprising that the point has sailed completely over your head. I'm not talking about repetition of clears making subsequent clears easier. I'm literally telling you that they have become easier because of how scaling works. PotD and HoH solo are exactly the same in that modifications to jobs or scaling post addition or new expansions makes them easier because your character power is greater. The clear rate has definitely increased since the beginning of all of these activities. None of you examples refute anything because you are comparing ranked rewards for demonstration of skill within a set time period to evergreen activities which can be completed any time before the game finally shuts down.

you used the word "regularly" which in fact does mean repetitiously, regardless of scaling clearing an ultimate takes anywhere from 1-4 months (depending on a player's time & effort) and POTD through its 7 or 8 yrs of it release has seen minimal increase much less so in recent expansions this by its very nature does not qualify as easy and completing either of these takes skill relative to pvp ranked, the only difference however is that ultimate and POTD and the rewards will be there (as you pointed out) till the game shuts down which was the whole point, that has now been explained 3 times yet you still dont understand, so i believe it is your head that it has sailed by

[RyanCousland]

You can always tell someone is grasping at straws when they cry grammar, however you seem to have forgotten the golden rule. If you want to attack someone you cannot then make the same mistake yourself. What's worse is you follow it up by claiming I'm trolling because I happen to disagree with you. Perhaps you should go shout at a wall instead of posting to a forum? It's also pretty rich coming from someone who made a million replies to his own thread begging for paladin buffs because he's too lazy to learn to play it. What rank are you now Ryan? You're wearing pantheon gear to boot so probably don't talk about PVE while you're at it ok?

i'm more than confident that i havent made a mistake in reading and comprehending your points, however the same cant be said about you, i make the accusation that you're trolling simply based on your statements as well as your demeanor not only in this thread but the one i started as well, in that its self evident, and since you brought it up im pretty sure within that thread i made compelling points that even the most ardent of opposition was able to agree, as for my rank im currently between diamond and crystal and i got there by only playing PLD which i doubt is something you could do, but youre more than welcome to duel me in the wolves den, as for PVE its funny you looked at my PLD gear and assume thats my raiding class and if you had a single brain cell you'd see that i completed P1,2,5,6,7 savage through my achievements whereas you dont have any so yes i do believe i can talk about PVE to someone that has no skill.

[RyanCousland]

I think you should probably look words up before you use them. Just because you heard someone else say them once doesn't mean you can just fire them off because you think they sound cool. More grammar errors from the grammar nazi here as well by the way.

please do enlighten everyone here about which words that are too big for you to understand. i bring up grammar and reading comprehension because that seems to be a hindrance for you in which i highly recommend you take classes for, unless you are in fact trolling then as always carry on my goob, oh by the way you might be conflating grammar and punctuation, as i wouldnt hold anyone accountable for punctuation errors, so be sure to go take some classes