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    More PvP Rewards

    Ok, hear me out. I get that some people don't want exclusive pvp rewards (armor/mounts) that only top 100 can get. How about making more armor and rewards using the wolf collar quartermaster. That way people can farm for different sets of armor/mounts if pvp is their thing. Each piece of armor can cost 15000-20000 trophy crystals (15/20 wolf collars) and mounts can cost more (maybe 40+ wolf collars). This way people that actually like the pvp in FFXIV have something to work towards, even if ranked is not their thing. Series rewards are nice but once you get past series level 30, there's nothing much else to incentivize people to play pvp.
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    I'm OK with exclusive t100 rewards as long as there is real leaderboard moderation.

    There are 99 ways to incentivize people to play PvP (FL/RW/CC) but SE just doesn't want to. Straight-up laziness from this company IMO.

    Tbh, the only rewards I got from playing PvP were the friends I made along the way.
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    The rewards should be overhauled across the board. Just making hunt currency stuff buyable with Wolf Marks would be a big step forward for your caual PvP player.

    Having something worthwhile to grind towards with all the stuff, Trophy Crystals, Wolf Collars etc. would be nice.

    As for top 100, I agree with the additional moderation if there's stuff on line to compete about. Would love to see the rewards become account wide and leaderboards locked to one Character per account though.

    If nothing else, they should at the very least throw in a multi top-100 finish titles to have at least something to work towards while they figure out the future of PvP and its rewards.
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    I'm not okay with exclusive rewards because that's a total waste of dev resources for a handful of players.

    I'm totally okay with rewards behind collars or even using the old collar system where the higher you ranked, the more collars you got though.

    Crystal trophies and other pvp currencies (we already have way too many of them, why do we even have collars left when you need to convert trophies into them, then them into wolf marks???) do need to cover more day to day consummables, not just materia. Hunt shops could be a real benefit imo.
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    Elfidan Gadfor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    I'm not okay with exclusive rewards because that's a total waste of dev resources for a handful of players.
    How is that a waste? Ultimate says hello btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    How is that a waste? Ultimate says hello btw.
    Ultimate concerns far more than a hundred (or top 30, or top 1) of players per DC, and on top of it, isn't FOMO.

    That's not even remotely comparable.
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    Everyone need to stop repeating every word and phrase they hear. Top 100/30 rewards are not FOMO. Fear of missing out implies anyone could have done it if they had been playing. That's like saying Olympic medals are FOMO. The series sets mounts etc. are FOMO until they actually reoffer them.

    Ultimate is literally 1% of the player base and they see that as a reasonable use of dev time. Can you actually produce a count for the number of people competing for top 100/30 across all data centers, or are we just taking 100/30 X the number of Data centers? Your reasoning has some holes in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    Everyone need to stop repeating every word and phrase they hear. Top 100/30 rewards are not FOMO. Fear of missing out implies anyone could have done it if they had been playing. That's like saying Olympic medals are FOMO. The series sets mounts etc. are FOMO until they actually reoffer them.

    Ultimate is literally 1% of the player base and they see that as a reasonable use of dev time. Can you actually produce a count for the number of people competing for top 100/30 across all data centers, or are we just taking 100/30 X the number of Data centers? Your reasoning has some holes in it.
    Someone mentioned exclusive top 100 rewards, and you're right, I probably made a shortcut in my mind thinking immediately about the old feast rewards.

    Also, please review your own reasoning logic if you're using the amount of people actually clearing ultimates to compare it to the amount of people attempting to clear a too 100/30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Also, please review your own reasoning logic if you're using the amount of people actually clearing ultimates to compare it to the amount of people attempting to clear a too 100/30.
    So if we do that we have to limit the number of ultimate players to the initial season timeline which is even less since only a few groups push before strats come out. 1% is your total active attempting. It takes a lot more time to design an entire 15-20 minute fight and then a weapon for it than just a set of armor or a special mount don't you think? Point is I hardly think this is some massive drain on the development pool while they're pushing out fails like V&C dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    I'm not okay with exclusive rewards because that's a total waste of dev resources for a handful of players.

    I'm totally okay with rewards behind collars or even using the old collar system where the higher you ranked, the more collars you got though.

    Crystal trophies and other pvp currencies (we already have way too many of them, why do we even have collars left when you need to convert trophies into them, then them into wolf marks???) do need to cover more day to day consummables, not just materia. Hunt shops could be a real benefit imo.
    Personally, I do like exclusive rewards, but I can see how other people won't. I can also see that SQUENIX might not have enough resources for exclusive rewards. Which is why I made this post in hopes of garnering more support for a BUNCH of armor sets that will take "grinding" to obtain. It's a win win as far as I can see it. More people will play pvp, more people will sub longer to FFXIV to grind for the armor, people that already pvp a lot will have something to look forward to, having more options to choose which set of armor you want to get as opposed to everyone getting the same series reward armor. I don't see any down side minus SQUENIX having to spend a little more resources to design the armor sets. They can even bring back the previous feast rewards but that might upset some people.
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