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    KatsukoYashiro's Avatar
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    Katsuko Yashiro
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 90

    New Portraits feature makes it difficult to leave commendations

    The new system of loading up character Portraits for leaving commendations has made it difficult for me to give commendations to players that I think deserve it.

    The current problem is that the player commendations window takes far too long to load on my application due to the game needing to pull and compile the character portraits. This is compounded by the longstanding arrangement of only being able to leave commendations for players still in the duty.

    As a consequence, players can leave a duty quickly and I'm not able to give any commendations. Previously, if I saw a player that I had wished to leave a commendation for start making for the exit I could at least make an effort to quickly open the commendations window and click on their name, but now the window takes too long to open.

    This has other negative consequences, such as players who wish to get the weekly challenge log entry "Exercising the Right" completed may find that every duty they've gone into that week has had its members all leave before their computer could load the commendations window.

    Suggested solutions:
    1. Fix the current commendation system.

      Its been a longstanding problem that needs to be resolved; sometimes I really want to comm someone but they have already left the duty. Make it so you can still comm someone after they have left.

      (and none of this "If they left, they shouldn't get the comm" stuff. no one wants to stick around after a clear, especially if they don't have a lot of time to play the game in a given day and they just need to finish daily roulettes.)
    2. Revert to the old system in some form or another.

      Either bring it back, OR add an option for players with slower machines/connections to not load instant portraits OR load the list of names first, then load the fancy character portraits.

    At the end of the day I do like the character portraits, but they shouldn't interfere with gameplay elements like this.
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  2. #2
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    Alonzo Vivas
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 92
    I agree that i never knew the reason why we couldn’t comm someone after they left.

    However, I think at this point, you shouldn’t worry too much about commending them, they know that leaving early meaning forfeiting any comms. So if even those players literally just dont care, I think you should not lose sleep over it.
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    Player fantasiaaddict's Avatar
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    Luneth Harvey
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    You can turn off portraits for the commendation screen.

    I play on PS4 and have no issues.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    I definitely want to be able to commend someone who has left the instance.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    I definitely want to be able to commend someone who has left the instance.
    If someone leaves the instance before you have a chance to comm them, they either do not need or do not care about comms, and changing the system to allow you to comm people who do not need or care would cost a lot just to add nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    If someone leaves the instance before you have a chance to comm them, they either do not need or do not care about comms, and changing the system to allow you to comm people who do not need or care would cost a lot just to add nothing.
    I'd rather look at it the other way: why should people be forced to stay and wait for commendations, if they want them? And the game doesn't tell you that you have got the commendations or not until you exit the instance. So the best way is to have the system allow giving commendations to people who were present there when the instance was completed. That way, it doesn't matter what people do.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Victor Spoils
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    If someone leaves the instance before you have a chance to comm them, they either do not need or do not care about comms, and changing the system to allow you to comm people who do not need or care would cost a lot just to add nothing.
    They already spent effort adding the system to the game. Spending more to fix a flaw doesn't seem that illogical.
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    Player
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    They already spent effort adding the system to the game. Spending more to fix a flaw doesn't seem that illogical.
    It would add literally nothing to the game. The people who left don't need or don't want the comms. The comms are meaningless to them. Adding the ability for you to give them meaningless points would have the same effect to them as if you just didn't comm anybody. Adding the ability to comm them, therefore, would be a waste of time.
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    Victor Spoils
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    It would add literally nothing to the game. The people who left don't need or don't want the comms. The comms are meaningless to them. Adding the ability for you to give them meaningless points would have the same effect to them as if you just didn't comm anybody. Adding the ability to comm them, therefore, would be a waste of time.
    There's that word again. But nobody "needs" commendations; that's not the point. The power lies with the commender, not the comendee. As pointed out above, the latter leave specifically because of the flaw. This would hardly differ from any of the other minor QoL changes that took 10 years to add anyways.
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