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  1. #21
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    Raoabolic's Avatar
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
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    Fisher Lv 90
    How To Frustrate Your Player Base 101
    *ahem*
    Mogshop exclusive housing that is tied to NFTs.
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  2. #22
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    Denji's Avatar
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    How To Frustrate Your Player Base 101
    *ahem*
    Mogshop exclusive housing that is tied to NFTs.
    i'd say don't give the square ceo any ideas but considering his insistence on selling IPs and investing the cash into crypto and NFTs when it was literally in the process of crashing and burning? i feel pretty safe.
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  3. #23
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Fourth step is to make a topic discussing it when countless others already exist?
    One of them was even from yourself!
    To add to Canadane's note here... I am fairly certain the actual community reps/mods have mentioned before that given the way their tools work they are more likely to notice a single, big thread on a topic (and to be able to push said thread dev-wards) than they are a whole bunch of little shorter threads on a topic.

    It may be viscerally satisfying to make a whole bunch of short threads about housing, let people post for several pages, and then post a new one, but if you want the devs to actually see the thread and consider the content, doing so probably works against your own goals.

    (I mean, I have some degree of doubt that any thread's going to make a difference anyway, because I suspect there would need to be some significant changes on the back-end to make housing work fully instanced; I imagine they'd have to take smaller intermediate steps to get from point A to point B, and that the journey is a long enough one that the publisher might balk and tell the dev team "no." But hey, I'd love to be wrong, and it probably doesn't hurt to keep waving the pennant and hoping for change.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

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    Ziyaal's Avatar
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    Monsieur Monstre
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    Cactuar
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    Exasperate, not exacerbate.
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  5. #25
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    Varilyon's Avatar
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    Lakryma Tyental
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    But we have instanced housing. We have Island Sanctuary!
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  6. #26
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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Final-Fantasy View Post
    Maybe it's fine how it is, but they shouldn't have made it so cheap that anyone could afford whatever plot they wanted.

    But then again, they originally said that Personal Housing would be separate from FC Housing, Yoshi lied.

    But whatever, they need to enforce the One plot per character per World rule, as we see on New Worlds, complete Wards taken by one player using FC's.
    They don't even hide it using the same Tag and ' in the FC name so they can be extremely obvious.

    Also, they really need a cooldown on relocation, such as 90 days from the purchase of a plot before you can relocate.
    The gil cost actually took effort when housing was first created back in the 2.x days. So it's more an issue of gil becoming too easy to get now as it's easy to have millions leveling from 1-90 on your first job.
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  7. #27
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    RobynDaBank's Avatar
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    Hope Sunflame
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I like your forum name coupled with the title of your post, OP. It comes off like an embittered MrHappy posting a sarcastic guide on his channel.
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    Mortal Fist

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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    To add to Canadane's note here... I am fairly certain the actual community reps/mods have mentioned before that given the way their tools work they are more likely to notice a single, big thread on a topic (and to be able to push said thread dev-wards) than they are a whole bunch of little shorter threads on a topic.

    It may be viscerally satisfying to make a whole bunch of short threads about housing, let people post for several pages, and then post a new one, but if you want the devs to actually see the thread and consider the content, doing so probably works against your own goals.

    (I mean, I have some degree of doubt that any thread's going to make a difference anyway, because I suspect there would need to be some significant changes on the back-end to make housing work fully instanced; I imagine they'd have to take smaller intermediate steps to get from point A to point B, and that the journey is a long enough one that the publisher might balk and tell the dev team "no." But hey, I'd love to be wrong, and it probably doesn't hurt to keep waving the pennant and hoping for change.)
    They've probably mentioned that and we've also seen reference to how JP handles feedback that way. One thread with many upvotes will always get more attention than a flood of threads. The trouble is we get new people every so often that just want to be heard and can't be arsed to find the relevant thread. It's the 'murican way
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  9. #29
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    Echo Micacho
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    Raiden
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Just give everyone a housing plot. By some miracle even Wildstar (rest in peace) managed to do that. Without melting their servers down. And even with furniture slot limits like 4000.

    Wish SE would just scrap the ward system, 99% of all players don't even care about who lives in their ward. Wildstar had a great mechanic at the end where players could basically fuse their plots together in a own zone to create a neighborhood. No being forced to live next to a candy house. That would be so much better than the constant band aid fix of just adding more and more wards which will never satisfy the demand.
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  10. #30
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Happy View Post
    This is your guide on how to exacerbate your player base.

    First step create an elitist housing system where only a handful of players can enjoy a massive portion of content that is incredibly important to many many MMO players.

    Second step lottery the very small limit quantity of houses

    Third step draw the results and watch as the majority of your player base is upset and anguished over losing while a handful of lucky players are happy and having a fun time enjoying content that the rest of us paying subers are locked out of...


    Now for real check out my other post about how EVERY player in the game should have a house not just a handful of elites.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...d-Have-A-House.

    Constantly running full wards is a massive drain on system resources. The majority of resources for instanced houses are not being used if no players are there. Please leave the past behind and come to the present/future of gaming which is instanced gaming.
    Remember, topics with multiple posts about them get ignored.
    Topics with one BIG active post about them get looked at, and if there's no trolling in them, actually get action.
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