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    Mr_Happy's Avatar
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    Veleda Haze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Fourth step is to make a topic discussing it when countless others already exist?
    One of them was even from yourself!
    Pure gold <3
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Happy View Post
    This is your guide on how to exacerbate your player base.

    First step create an elitist housing system where only a handful of players can enjoy a massive portion of content that is incredibly important to many many MMO players.

    Second step lottery the very small limit quantity of houses

    Third step draw the results and watch as the majority of your player base is upset and anguished over losing while a handful of lucky players are happy and having a fun time enjoying content that the rest of us paying subers are locked out of...


    Now for real check out my other post about how EVERY player in the game should have a house not just a handful of elites.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...d-Have-A-House.

    Constantly running full wards is a massive drain on system resources. The majority of resources for instanced houses are not being used if no players are there. Please leave the past behind and come to the present/future of gaming which is instanced gaming.
    I think you are generalizing just a bit much.

    I would hardly call it an "elitist housing system" lottery is pure RNG, unlike your opinion that a "majority" of the player base is upset over housing, everyone in mmo's knows rng basically sucks. thats a given. period.

    I wouldnt call housing a "massive portion" of content either.

    you dont need a house to play the game, as such, a large number, likely even the majority of players... dont care if it exists or not. as for "anguished".. please, if you are anguished over not getting a pixel house in a video game, you need to seek help. I am serious, its not something you need to lose your mind over. its pixels, you cannot actually live there and people who have one are not any more "elite" than you are. that is the way rng works, sometimes you are the windshield.. and sometimes you are the bug.
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    There are way better topics that could be getting attention, but no. Let's do another housing thread.
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    There are way better topics that could be getting attention, but no. Let's do another housing thread.
    What should we talk about then, Dev? Because all you do is cry about other people "crying".
    Perhaps if SE didn't make the housing situation a piece of S people wouldn't be posting
    topics for nearly 10 years of a trash housing system!
    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I get being sad about not getting your plot, but why are so many people suddenly so butthurt? .
    This isn't suddenly. It's been a joke for years. Is it better? A bit but it's still RNG
    for a HOUSE in a MMO that you have to even sub to keep.
    It's one of the most casual pieces of content SE can't get right. It has been 10 years LOL.
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    Last edited by Jybril; 01-31-2023 at 08:28 AM. Reason: Added quote.

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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Happy View Post
    Now for real check out my other post about...
    I don't think I will.
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    the only thing that truly frustrates me is the stupid linkshell emote. goddamn thing needs a cooldown.

    otherwise everything is inconvenient at most. still sucks tho.
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    How To Frustrate Your Player Base 101
    *ahem*
    Mogshop exclusive housing that is tied to NFTs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    How To Frustrate Your Player Base 101
    *ahem*
    Mogshop exclusive housing that is tied to NFTs.
    i'd say don't give the square ceo any ideas but considering his insistence on selling IPs and investing the cash into crypto and NFTs when it was literally in the process of crashing and burning? i feel pretty safe.
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Fourth step is to make a topic discussing it when countless others already exist?
    One of them was even from yourself!
    To add to Canadane's note here... I am fairly certain the actual community reps/mods have mentioned before that given the way their tools work they are more likely to notice a single, big thread on a topic (and to be able to push said thread dev-wards) than they are a whole bunch of little shorter threads on a topic.

    It may be viscerally satisfying to make a whole bunch of short threads about housing, let people post for several pages, and then post a new one, but if you want the devs to actually see the thread and consider the content, doing so probably works against your own goals.

    (I mean, I have some degree of doubt that any thread's going to make a difference anyway, because I suspect there would need to be some significant changes on the back-end to make housing work fully instanced; I imagine they'd have to take smaller intermediate steps to get from point A to point B, and that the journey is a long enough one that the publisher might balk and tell the dev team "no." But hey, I'd love to be wrong, and it probably doesn't hurt to keep waving the pennant and hoping for change.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    To add to Canadane's note here... I am fairly certain the actual community reps/mods have mentioned before that given the way their tools work they are more likely to notice a single, big thread on a topic (and to be able to push said thread dev-wards) than they are a whole bunch of little shorter threads on a topic.

    It may be viscerally satisfying to make a whole bunch of short threads about housing, let people post for several pages, and then post a new one, but if you want the devs to actually see the thread and consider the content, doing so probably works against your own goals.

    (I mean, I have some degree of doubt that any thread's going to make a difference anyway, because I suspect there would need to be some significant changes on the back-end to make housing work fully instanced; I imagine they'd have to take smaller intermediate steps to get from point A to point B, and that the journey is a long enough one that the publisher might balk and tell the dev team "no." But hey, I'd love to be wrong, and it probably doesn't hurt to keep waving the pennant and hoping for change.)
    They've probably mentioned that and we've also seen reference to how JP handles feedback that way. One thread with many upvotes will always get more attention than a flood of threads. The trouble is we get new people every so often that just want to be heard and can't be arsed to find the relevant thread. It's the 'murican way
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