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    Commander_Justitia's Avatar
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    Ash Primordial
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 90
    You weren't supposed to have so much fun at the cost of other players, so now you have your 33% winrate playing with random people you don't know so be happy.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    You weren't supposed to have so much fun at the cost of other players, so now you have your 33% winrate playing with random people you don't know so be happy.
    Its not fun being on the receiving end of a premade... They could have solved it by reducing the group size of premades to 4 player groups for 8v8v8 matches, but that would have required them to split frontlines into two separate queues which obviously they don't want to do.
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    Araxes's Avatar
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    Runic Raven
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    Zodiark
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Building Groups of 8 people was a feature only available to pvpers so the non-pvpers complained about not being able to build groups..... wait....

    Seriously though, people who didnt wanna put in any effort got 24 man Frontlines removed.
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    ᛞᚨᚢᛃᚨᚾ ᚠᚱᚨᚾᛞᛁᛊ : ᛞᚨᚢᛃᛁᚦ ᛊᛖᛚᛒᚨᛉ ᛊᚨᛗᛟ
    ᛖᚲᚨ ᚹᚨᛁᛏ ᚨᚾᚨᛁᚾᛟ
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    ᛞᛟᛗᚨᛉ ᚢᛗᛒᛁ ᛞᚨᚢᛞᚨᚾᛟ ᚺᚹᚨᚱᛃᚨᚾᛟ

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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    Building Groups of 8 people was a feature only available to pvpers so the non-pvpers complained about not being able to build groups..... wait....

    Seriously though, people who didnt wanna put in any effort got 24 man Frontlines removed.
    Do you have any source or post to link to back that up?
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    Player
    Araxes's Avatar
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    Runic Raven
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    Zodiark
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Do you have any source or post to link to back that up?
    I am sorry i will not be able to dig out notes and posts or Videos from Years ago.

    But fun fact: The PvP got changed from all pve skills + additional pvp skills to 10 buttons because people complained about pvp being to hard.

    PvP was a entirely different World in Heavensward We even had Gear back then.
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Id have them drop an team so its only 24 vs 24 and not this bs....
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    Towa-Musa's Avatar
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    Towa Musa
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Id have them drop an team so its only 24 vs 24 and not this bs....
    This... this needs to happen above all else.
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    8 men premades seal clubbing all day long was peak HW/SB pvp frontlines
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    Mistress_Irika's Avatar
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    Ophelia Irika
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I'm glad that I've gotten a chance to complete my goal of beating an entire 8 man premade without help from another premade granted that I had to take the coward's way out and abuse all objectives in order to win.

    I would like 24 man frontlines to return. However, it's pretty obvious that the community can't handle premades in pvp for whatever reason. Something is going to have to give in order for the mode to return most likely if this is even being considered at all.
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    Bobby66's Avatar
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    Paper Wait
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Thanks for all the info, yeah I can see the idea of premades really does rub people the wrong way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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