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    Kaliesto's Avatar
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Something should be done for players that love a challenge in Alliance Raids.

    I think some of us would like something more of a challenge in alliance raids by having extreme Mode with its own sets of achievements and awards and slightly higher earning in Tomestones.

    Also make it as a Permanent Weekly Roulette Challenge (Maybe).

    I know these Devs. would like to flex their ideas out on what would these Alliance Bosses be like if they were able to let loose a bit more in Extreme. If it turns out popular they can turn the dial up for Savage Versions of the Alliance Raids, and might actually have to think what to do with Adds too besides the bosses, and will be a great experience for players to actually communicate and build with eachother.

    However I wouldn't want to be copy-paste like Unreal is, but actually have adds and Bosses have new additional mechanics in each version of the alliance raid.

    A man can dream anyway, I just want to see more challenge variations of current content. Not sure how many people here would want to go for something like that.


    I know we got our wish recently with 4-Man content though being a new dungeon, but I hope will see something for Alliance raids too. Its more fun when you're partying with more people.
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    Last edited by Kaliesto; 01-25-2023 at 12:19 PM.

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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Was actually just talking about this today with some friends. If they had (Unreal) versions of the older alliance raids with mechanics synced up to current ilvl and rewards of like, dyeable versions of the original glams or tokens you could use to buy the glams/minions outright, we thought that would be pretty neat.
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    That's basically what BA, CLL, Dalriada and DR were. DR even has a Savage version.
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    Graeham Graisse
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    Do the Ivalice raider in solo duty finding. Will have the more wipe than the TOP prog.
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    ~You may defeat us but our principal is in violet. Indivisible.~
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    Cedric Alsen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    That's basically what BA, CLL, Dalriada and DR were. DR even has a Savage version.
    And it was beautiful. Moar of it, moar!
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    Zelent Trentadue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    That's basically what BA, CLL, Dalriada and DR were. DR even has a Savage version.
    And these were some of the most fun experiences I've had in FF14.

    Would definitely enjoy this level of challenge in Alliance Raids.
    Currently, Alliance Raids are laughably easy.
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    Bonuille Larouchette
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    With it's own rewards and achievements? The devs can barely make a set of seasonal event gear on time let alone a whole new set just to accommodate a version of casual content fine tuned to be savage so a fraction of the playerbase can feel special for walking out of circles really good.
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    i like the idea but tbh i dont need special achievements or rewards for it. it doesnt have to be extreme difficulty or let alone criterion difficulty either.... but something between dungeons and extremes... more like normal raids? or bozja, and not whatever we have right now.
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    My issue with this idea is the same I find in EX trials on Mentor roulettes: Other people.

    The reason Alliance Duties are trivial is mostly so, even if your get several people that is running the instance blind or is simply bad, you can still clear them, which makes the DF experience bearable. The more you increase the difficulty, the more impact the dead weights have on the run and, on top of it, you have 23 spots you need to fill with no guarantee they're taken by dead weights.

    If they made non-DF Alliance raids in a similar manner to the Bozjan Alliance raids then sure, I'm all for it, as long as they keep a similar system of player scaling, flexible roles and tools to support said flexibility. On those raids, I have at least some power to keep the run going even if the rest of the party dies constantly.

    But, first and foremost, SE should rework the entirety of Syrcus Tower raids. They're a poor introduction for new players due to obsolete and uneventful fights and a bane for anyone who wants to do Roulettes normally, as on top of the whole raid being mandatory for MSQ (should've never been imo) you get these lazy people who would rather cheese the roulette through ilvl to get Syrcus AR rather than do AR with some actual semblance of mechanics. They did a decent work on Cutscene Meridianum, they could do the same with Syrcus Tower.
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Halicarnassus
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    Why do we need casual content turned into hardcore content? Would you be fine with a story mode of the Ultimates that gives a slightly less impressive weapon and title?

    It's fine to have things that are just for hardcore players and stuff that's just for casual players. 24 man raids fall under the casual umbrella, and for high player count hardcore content there's BA and DRS already, and any new exploration zone would have a similar high player count hardcore raid.
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