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  1. #1
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    JinParagon's Avatar
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    Joshiah Ordelia
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 90

    The Omega Protocol, Mechanics lead to players surpassing the 30 Effects cap, DPS worr

    I see my previous thread was moved to inssuficent information, so I will provide an example of a buff situation in The omega Protocal, which might trigger the Buff/Debuff limit to activate, and hurt the DPS potential of a player.

    I have also come aware that some of these issues could arise before the completion of Hello World .

    I'm about to list a possible party, and a possible list of buffs on one player.

    Assuming DRG, BRD, MNK, SMN, AST, SCH, GNB, WAR.

    DRG can potentially have their Power Surge [1], Life Surge [2], Dragon Sight [3], Battle Litany [4], The Wanderer's Minuet [5], Radiant Finale [6], Battle Voice [7], Meditative Brotherhood [8], brotherhood [9], Searing Light [10], Nature's minne [11], Troubadour [12], heart of light [13], Catalyze [14], Galvanize [15] , Fey Illumination [16], Whispering Dawn [17], Seraphic Veil[18], Expedience [19], Divination [20], The Balanced [21], sacred soil [22], Mantra [23], blood bath [24], True North [25], Lance Charge [26], Well Fed [27], FC buff #1 [28], FC Buff #2 [29], Tincture [30], plus up to six Hello world buffs [36]

    Even if someone were to go cross world to lower the amount of Buffs by 2, to avoid FC buffs, this is still putting us over the cap
    The game has a buff cap of 30, and will take priority of adding the Buffs and debuffs from the enemy (Omega).

    A job like Dragoon here wont be able to complete most of their combos, as most of their combos rely on receiving a buff, namely Wheel in Motion, Fang and Claw Bared, Draconian Fire, and Dive Ready. This also affects jobs such as Monk, who need to swap between forms, and Ninja's mudras.

    This will severely limit their DPS, and has pushed some teams to consider swapping jobs, I fear that this is not healthy for a game that prides itself in keeping jobs balance.
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    Last edited by JinParagon; 01-29-2023 at 12:03 AM. Reason: Minor typo for reaching character count in title

  2. #2
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    Joshiah Ordelia
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    Damage down has no priority as well.

    https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...128_025020.jpg

    This image has come from The Omega Protocol, and the interesting things, is that, Damage down has no priority, so this creates an awkward mix that, some DPS struggle to maintain their rotation by reaching cap, but also, you don't get punished as hard for not solving the mechanic properly
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    Isutowaru Kumiko
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    Shiva
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Date of issue: 28/01/2023
    Time of issue: -
    Frequency: Consistently with certain party compositions
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    Monster name: Omega
    Class/Level: DRK
    Party or solo: Party
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    Area and coordinates: The Omega Protocol
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    Steps:
    0. FC buffs and food annoyingly makes this more consistent
    1. Go in with a party composition that focus heavily on buffs party-side (For example; PLD, DRK, AST, SCH, DRG, RPR, DNC, RDM) or OP's comp
    2. At the start of phase 3 (Final Omega), a 2 minute buff window appears during or after Hello World cast. The party mitigates this.
    3. Receive the required debuffs for Hello World
    4. The party activates their 2 minute buff window - Divination, Technical Step, Battle Litany, Dragon Sight, Embolden, AST cards (Arrow, Spire etc.), Delirium, Blood Weapon, Fight or Flight, etc
    5. 'Dodge' raid buffs or raid debuffs during burst window because of the 30 buff/debuff cap limit.
    6. Get unfairly punished, in a difficult high end content, that leads to situations where not meeting the DPS check can cause a wipe because of the buff cap, or not receiving the required debuffs to resolve Hello World, making the fight more annoying to progress.
    PC/Playstation specs not required. Server-side.

    Please fix, YoshiP. Don't let people move off their main job for a game design flaw.
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    Last edited by Isutowaru; 01-29-2023 at 03:31 AM. Reason: Just learned Critical Overflow can be dodged, which can hinder prog.

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    Soveia Shadowsong
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    Odin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JinParagon View Post
    https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...128_025020.jpg

    This image has come from The Omega Protocol, and the interesting things, is that, Damage down has no priority, so this creates an awkward mix that, some DPS struggle to maintain their rotation by reaching cap, but also, you don't get punished as hard for not solving the mechanic properly
    That image is so heavily cropped it almost looks like someone faked that with plugin tools and didn't want to show the missing damage text.


    This isn't real either.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    When they say "Insufficient Information", they mean that you didn't follow the standard template and fill out all of the information they ask for. You can check the Sticky post at the top to see all the templates. Although there are occasionally exceptions, usually they need all the information and reject it if it's not provided. You can avoid including what you can't possibly fill out or that isn't relevant, but some of it could be filled out at least like one of the replies demonstrated.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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