On the issue of Limit Breaks (CC)

[Valence]

Zantetsuken, just stop AoEing you monkey

One of the most noob friendly LBs for sure. Fortunately it has a very slow charge time, and sees some counters and baits, notably in the form of shields. That being, said, while barriers aren't really the hardest in terms of effort to pull, it also depends of the job you use (BLM needs to use Burst for it, and you use Burst for damage application, so holding it actually hurts a lot). Some jobs, actually, don't even have an proper answer to it (no barrier, or just pure mitigation).

Some jobs can also obviously avoid hitting the SAM when their LB is up, which is totally legit. Some however (DRG, DNC, BLM, SMN, etc), I really question, unless you want to just sit afk and deal no damage waiting for the SAM to be willing to pop their LB, thank you very much Mr SAM. Most of the time you just end up crossing your fingers for somebody in your team being able to bait the thing with a barrier, or for somebody to eat the bullet (guess which happens in 99% of the games).

On top of it, the LB does as much damage as the initial summon of Bahamut to everybody it hits (fortunately on a smaller AoE). Like for MCH, I don't feel that the LB is especially egregious like Seiton or Meteodrive, but it still has some jank/screw-you design choices behind.

[Jybril]

Zantetsuken, just stop AoEing you monkey

One of the most noob friendly LBs for sure. Fortunately it has a very slow charge time, and sees some counters and baits, notably in the form of shields. That being, said, while barriers aren't really the hardest in terms of effort to pull, it also depends of the job you use (BLM needs to use Burst for it, and you use Burst for damage application, so holding it actually hurts a lot). Some jobs, actually, don't even have an proper answer to it (no barrier, or just pure mitigation).

Some jobs can also obviously avoid hitting the SAM when their LB is up, which is totally legit. Some however (DRG, DNC, BLM, SMN, etc), I really question, unless you want to just sit afk and deal no damage waiting for the SAM to be willing to pop their LB, thank you very much Mr SAM. Most of the time you just end up crossing your fingers for somebody in your team being able to bait the thing with a barrier, or for somebody to eat the bullet (guess which happens in 99% of the games).

On top of it, the LB does as much damage as the initial summon of Bahamut to everybody it hits (fortunately on a smaller AoE). Like for MCH, I don't feel that the LB is especially egregious like Seiton or Meteodrive, but it still has some jank/screw-you design choices behind.

So they didn't bother fixing the fact that an AoE from a BLM or anyone else can destroy you when SAM uses their LB
while you're also miles away from the guy. What a joke lmfao. I remember when it happened to me.