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  1. #1
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    Ogrumz's Avatar
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    Rumz Hatexia
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    The reward grind takes far to long for all the bad stuff in PvP in general.

    With the amount of addon users, GCD hacking, and infinite sprint hacking (Literally the same ninja I have seen in season 1 is still around unloading their entire kit in 1 second and killing people, and I took a break lol).

    Assuming you are losing every game, the first row takes 5 games to gain one level, and if you are winning every game 4 games every level. Each conflict game is 5 minutes (usually, some have some overtime shenanigans. Some games half the enemy team AFKs or half of your team does.). Which means on the first row of the battle pass alone you are probably playing on average 45 games.

    Which is 225 minutes, or 4 hours (rounded up from 3.75 hours) of dealing with infuriating things. This number goes up for the tier 2 rewards, cause it goes from 3k experience per 'not battle pass' level, to 4k, and then t3 goes up and you get the drift.

    Considering it is a competitive player versus player game mode with no power influence over the character this gets bad real quick as well. Not only are you dealing with cheaters which makes the game unfun for both sides no matter whos side they are on, but also you get people who don't even try. The black mage who sits in the open casting over and over not even attempting to move away from 3 people running at them, or worse the 3 people you get that just hold W into the enemy team and die over and over.

    TLDR: There is just too many infuriating bad player behaviour issues that make grinding the pass incredibly unfun. This isn't even including the actual PvP balance itself.

    Flame away.
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    Kathleen Nadinea
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Touch grass.
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    Niko'to Seleuca
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Didn't take that long.
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    Give me more Keeper of the Moon rep!

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    Yushee Shinra
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    Diabolos
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    I wish there were more rewards to be honest. Already done with the battle pass. We still have at least another 3 months to go with nothing to grind.
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    Last edited by Yushees; 01-24-2023 at 09:51 AM.

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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Series pass is done in no time compared to most aisine grinds in this game.

    If you don't enjoy PvP, don't play it.

    I'm not forcing myself into deep dungeons, triple triad or other low quality content.
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  6. #6
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    Ogrumz's Avatar
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    Rumz Hatexia
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    Series pass is done in no time compared to most aisine grinds in this game.

    If you don't enjoy PvP, don't play it.

    I'm not forcing myself into deep dungeons, triple triad or other low quality content.
    The PvP is also 'low quality content'.

    You would also care if they had rewards you really want. Don't even try to grandstand and lie by saying "Well they do but I still don't do it." Deep dungeons and triple triad aren't ultimates (And the 'reward' grinds for both of them don't take that long either), and are much easier to do than PvP. But anyway, if you actually read my post you'd understand I don't got a real issue with the grind. I got an issue with all the bad things involved with the grind. Literally is the first sentence of the post.
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  7. #7
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    Yaba Gabagool
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ogrumz View Post
    The PvP is also 'low quality content'.

    You would also care if they had rewards you really want. Don't even try to grandstand and lie by saying "Well they do but I still don't do it." Deep dungeons and triple triad aren't ultimates (And the 'reward' grinds for both of them don't take that long either), and are much easier to do than PvP. But anyway, if you actually read my post you'd understand I don't got a real issue with the grind. I got an issue with all the bad things involved with the grind. Literally is the first sentence of the post.
    I understand that they have a lot of issues trying to work with the crystal engine and building on top of that flaming pile of garbage.

    I'll give them slack for that.

    But the class balance, the designed systems, their implementations, and their executions are woefully terrible. I mean like, really really bad. And it's par for the course when it comes to square sadly.
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  8. #8
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ogrumz View Post
    The PvP is also 'low quality content'.

    You would also care if they had rewards you really want. Don't even try to grandstand and lie by saying "Well they do but I still don't do it." Deep dungeons and triple triad aren't ultimates (And the 'reward' grinds for both of them don't take that long either), and are much easier to do than PvP. But anyway, if you actually read my post you'd understand I don't got a real issue with the grind. I got an issue with all the bad things involved with the grind. Literally is the first sentence of the post.
    You do you, I'm not the one suffering here with parts of game I don't enjoy.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Machinist Lv 100
    I have fortunately not encountered hacks on the DC I play, be it in casual or ranked. I really pity the people that have to deal with it on other regions though.
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  10. #10
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    Garten Rei
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    As much as i too have some issues with current pvp, the grind Is not One of them. You could literally Just do 1 Frontline per day and you'll cap the season pass well before It expires
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    Last edited by Garten; 01-25-2023 at 02:16 AM.

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