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    My Problem With The Role Quest System Is How All Are Required For Major Side Story

    This is especially in terms of Endwalker, where a major side story revolves around completing all five role quest lines, requiring you to level up and play a Tank, Melee DPS, Ranged DPS, Caster DPS, and Healer to get the whole story, even if you don't enjoy playing certain roles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Styrmwyda View Post
    This is especially in terms of Endwalker, where a major side story revolves around completing all five role quest lines, requiring you to level up and play a Tank, Melee DPS, Ranged DPS, Caster DPS, and Healer to get the whole story, even if you don't enjoy playing certain roles.
    You can just watch on Youtube if you really want to get 'the whole story', this reminds me of how people were asking for a 'story mode for DSR' because they didn't want to do ultimate to see the 'story' (a literal 'lmao what if' scenario that is not canon), and for some reason refused to see someone else's POV of it, because I guess it doesn't count if it's not their WOL in the cutscene

    I don't really enjoy DPS all that much, but I got every class to 90. Just do Levelling roulette and you'll get 90 eventually off of that
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    You can just watch on Youtube if you really want to get 'the whole story', this reminds me of how people were asking for a 'story mode for DSR' because they didn't want to do ultimate to see the 'story' (a literal 'lmao what if' scenario that is not canon), and for some reason refused to see someone else's POV of it, because I guess it doesn't count if it's not their WOL in the cutscene

    I don't really enjoy DPS all that much, but I got every class to 90. Just do Levelling roulette and you'll get 90 eventually off of that
    The thing is, DSR (and other Ultimates) are "what if" scenarios, while the epilogue to the EW Role Quests deals with a major part of the story and ties up loose ends. And I don't enjoy (or more likely, feel very overwhelmed by) Tanking and especially Healing in group content. Like, what if I am not able to quickly switch between targeting the boss and healing someone when needed?
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    Oh noes you have to do content to unlock other content. The horror
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Oh noes you have to do content to unlock other content. The horror
    Usually i dont agree with ya, but yes, so true, how dare they.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Oh noes you have to do content to unlock other content. The horror
    The thing is, before job quests were self contained, and you could get the full MSQ story while only doing one job. And as I said, I am especially nervous about leveling Tanking and Healer in group content, where if you mess up, things are much worse, even in casual content, and while people may be patient in the early levels, if I made those mistakes in later levels (especially if I decide to make GNB my Tank and SGE my Healer, which start at 60 and 70, respectively), they would likely be much less forgiving.
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    Last edited by Styrmwyda; 01-11-2023 at 07:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Styrmwyda View Post
    The thing is, before job quests were self contained, and you could get the full MSQ story while only doing one job.
    So just like now
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    So just like now
    Uh, no, the role quests, especially in EW, wraps up a major plot point of the MSQ, mainly of a certain type of creature (don't know how to spoiler stuff, if it is possible), as well as finishing a character's arc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Oh noes you have to do content to unlock other content. The horror
    One of the few times I actually agree with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiramu View Post
    One of the few times I actually agree with you.
    I think he is missing the point. Like I said, I am afraid to do Tank and Healer group content at higher levels, but group content is the only way to level them effectively (well, besides buying a level boost with real money)
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