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    Player
    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    I want to see if they are adding Sharlayan housing next expansion. Probably not though. New zones seem to come every other expansion.

    However... female Hrothgars!
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    Honestly at this point your still even seeing mediums pop up on every lotto on the majority of worlds. I think there is almost a overabundance of housing for those that want one. At this point the problem is more the lotto system. Its a issue because it takes a week to resolve and if there is a conflict for 2 people for the same plot - it takes a week to determine who actually gets it. The thing is; there are other plots the loser can go get - but it will take another week to resolve and that's IF there is no conflict. So you might spend a month constantly losing - that's not that there are no houses - just that you keep getting in conflict with others that want the same house.

    I propose you allow people to bid on as many houses that they want; but if they win they are given one of the homes they bid on at random; if they win multiple homes the other houses immediately get rerolled until a new winner gets one. This allows people to get into a house sooner.

    Caveat being - if you bid on multiple homes - there is no wait; you immediately move into it the moment you win; if your relocating then all your stuff goes into storage as per the already in place system. Its up to you to plan for that possibly happening. It also would help alleviate "snipe" bids where we essentially undid the lotto. As it stands now the people with more time on their hands can simply wait till 9am the day of auction end and pick the best odds; which reminds me of the old placard clicking and prime time window to go clicking. If you could just say "Oh I want a medium" and you got the 40+ million gil to do so; then go bid on all the mediums you would be satisfied with getting.
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    Lina Hisne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    Honestly at this point your still even seeing mediums pop up on every lotto on the majority of worlds. I think there is almost a overabundance of housing for those that want one. At this point the problem is more the lotto system. Its a issue because it takes a week to resolve and if there is a conflict for 2 people for the same plot - it takes a week to determine who actually gets it. The thing is; there are other plots the loser can go get - but it will take another week to resolve and that's IF there is no conflict. So you might spend a month constantly losing - that's not that there are no houses - just that you keep getting in conflict with others that want the same house.

    I propose you allow people to bid on as many houses that they want; but if they win they are given one of the homes they bid on at random; if they win multiple homes the other houses immediately get rerolled until a new winner gets one. This allows people to get into a house sooner.

    Caveat being - if you bid on multiple homes - there is no wait; you immediately move into it the moment you win; if your relocating then all your stuff goes into storage as per the already in place system. Its up to you to plan for that possibly happening. It also would help alleviate "snipe" bids where we essentially undid the lotto. As it stands now the people with more time on their hands can simply wait till 9am the day of auction end and pick the best odds; which reminds me of the old placard clicking and prime time window to go clicking. If you could just say "Oh I want a medium" and you got the 40+ million gil to do so; then go bid on all the mediums you would be satisfied with getting.
    No.

    Balmung has 25+ per SMALL every cycle. Mateus 15+. There absolutely is not enough housing or even close to an overabundance. And if there are a bunch of empty housing lots from doubling or tripling the number of wards, so what? Sub farm exploiters or new players can get them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourcy View Post
    No.

    Balmung has 25+ per SMALL every cycle. Mateus 15+. There absolutely is not enough housing or even close to an overabundance. And if there are a bunch of empty housing lots from doubling or tripling the number of wards, so what? Sub farm exploiters or new players can get them.
    I'm not actually opposed to creating a housing ward where needed. To be honest there should be a automatic process that opens 1 ward for every 3 that are "full"; those wards should ALWAYS be private homes ONLY to avoid exploitative sub farms and house sales. The wards will not grow infinitely because the servers do have population caps anyways - so if Balmung is filling up it would add supply on BALMUNG as needed.

    As for Mateus I just bid on a private with 0 bids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    I'm not actually opposed to creating a housing ward where needed. To be honest there should be a automatic process that opens 1 ward for every 3 that are "full"; those wards should ALWAYS be private homes ONLY to avoid exploitative sub farms and house sales. The wards will not grow infinitely because the servers do have population caps anyways - so if Balmung is filling up it would add supply on BALMUNG as needed.

    As for Mateus I just bid on a private with 0 bids.
    It's the first day of bidding, check back in a week for Mateus. And yes. LOTRO had that EXACT system back in 2010.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    I'm not actually opposed to creating a housing ward where needed. To be honest there should be a automatic process that opens 1 ward for every 3 that are "full"; those wards should ALWAYS be private homes ONLY to avoid exploitative sub farms and house sales. The wards will not grow infinitely because the servers do have population caps anyways - so if Balmung is filling up it would add supply on BALMUNG as needed.

    As for Mateus I just bid on a private with 0 bids.
    Forgive me if my understanding is incorrect but I don't think that should ever be a solution. That would lead to a situation where every one would just pile into a single server and would leads to even worse server instability and congestion no?

    There's a reason why SE has rolled out more new worlds and for players who really want to own a house, they can roll a character on the new worlds as there's little to zero competition. Having said that, I am personally on Balmung itself and I've already made my peace with it being housing savage compared to other new worlds. I've also created alts on OCE previously to experience housing where there are literally still several empty wards right now even one year into the creation of OCE data center.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeNada View Post
    Forgive me if my understanding is incorrect but I don't think that should ever be a solution. That would lead to a situation where every one would just pile into a single server and would leads to even worse server instability and congestion no?

    There's a reason why SE has rolled out more new worlds and for players who really want to own a house, they can roll a character on the new worlds as there's little to zero competition. Having said that, I am personally on Balmung itself and I've already made my peace with it being housing savage compared to other new worlds. I've also created alts on OCE previously to experience housing where there are literally still several empty wards right now even one year into the creation of OCE data center.
    No worries.

    Servers have population caps - so eventually your server becomes unable to recieve new players; I am assuming this cap goes in place before the server hits critcal mass. Ironically I do a lot of work on the other foreign DC's so I realize the scarcity is not a widespread issue; its on a few select cases and thats why I mention there is actually probably somewhat of a overabundance.
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    Blue Berries? or Black berries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuniko View Post
    Blue Berries? or Black berries?
    Both! And add some red raspberries, strawberries and vanilla ice cream, and you have a tasty dessert!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    Both! And add some red raspberries, strawberries and vanilla ice cream, and you have a tasty dessert!

    Oh my fluffness! YES! i'd love some of that right now!
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