We have midcore content... just too little too late.

[Raven2014]

Honestly, yes. This has been a thing with MMOs from way before WoW. You put in the grind to get the reward. MMOs have always been Skinner Boxes from day one.

That's how you see it, that's not how "everyone" see it. People play games for different reasons. I had "hundred" of clears in Stormblood EX simply because those fights were fun, probably the best EXs ever in the game. I also played hundred clears of Titania 'cause I love that fight too. I continued to do them even after I don't need anything any more, including the mount. Samething with PvP, I play it almost every day despite I never really care about the reward, 'cause I just like it.

- I don't really do criterion either, but that's because it's simply not fun, not because of the lack of reward.
- I didn't find the grind for the 2.0, 3.0, 4.0 relic fun, so despite liking some of the skin I was like "ok I'll come back in a few years" ... and that's exactly what I did.
- I have A LOT of the Boza relic though, but not only because I like the skin, but because I had a blast playing that content.

While I won't deny a balance with the reward certainly help ... but the way you put it. Playing x for the reward even if you hate it, and vice versa ... seem to be a pretty ... sad way to spend time in a game, 'cause that sounds like a job.


And as someone point out, the community can't even agree on what "mid-core" content is. The joke about "customers are always right" is "what happens your customers don't agree with each others".