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    Raoabolic's Avatar
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thi View Post
    This is honestly a major problem the dev team has with XIV. Many times the rewards for doing the content are not worth doing said content for.

    The new EX is a great example, oh a weapon worse than what I have even on my alt jobs because I do savage content. I'm not even going to bother unlocking it unless the skin looks nice, which in general the EX weapons are meh. Plus next expansion they will release a nicer looking crafted version I can just buy on the market board.

    Same issue happened with the criterion dungeons. Not going to be arsed to do something for absolute shit tier rewards.

    Meanwhile, as an exception as a player I have no interest in Island Sanctuary style content, but the rewards for it are worth the time investment to get it up and running nearly automated, so I pushed through and got my island setup to farm the currency with minimal input and collect rewards.

    Basically the content needs to have rewards equivalent to the time spent and relevant for the patch cycle if they have stats attached.
    So it's about the destination rather than the journey. I guess I shouldn't be that shocked, that has been a trend since early WoW, lol.
    At this point it seems more like a community issue than a dev issue. There should always be a carrot at the end of the hamster wheel we call xiv but you have to admit that the mixmax mentality killed a lot of content in the game. Why should you help with X when Y drops something that is 5 ilvls higher? lol
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    Azuri Aeru
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    So it's about the destination rather than the journey. I guess I shouldn't be that shocked, that has been a trend since early WoW, lol.
    At this point it seems more like a community issue than a dev issue. There should always be a carrot at the end of the hamster wheel we call xiv but you have to admit that the mixmax mentality killed a lot of content in the game. Why should you help with X when Y drops something that is 5 ilvls higher? lol
    Yes, the devs being unable to design content where the "journey" is enough to keep players coming back to it is definitely a community issue. Sure thing.

    XIV has a very unique and weird style of FOMO. Every piece of content that comes out is a flash in a pan that is over a few weeks after its release and from that point on you will struggle finding groups to even run it. Sitting in half-filled PFs for the entire evening isn't enjoyable gameplay.

    There is no "journey", just "stagnation".
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    Ara Amai
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Yes, the devs being unable to design content where the "journey" is enough to keep players coming back to it is definitely a community issue. Sure thing.

    XIV has a very unique and weird style of FOMO. Every piece of content that comes out is a flash in a pan that is over a few weeks after its release and from that point on you will struggle finding groups to even run it. Sitting in half-filled PFs for the entire evening isn't enjoyable gameplay.

    There is no "journey", just "stagnation".
    I always considered myself impatient for not wanting to put up with waiting for so long in pf just to disband in one pull but I guess someone else shares the same feeling!
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    I always considered myself impatient for not wanting to put up with waiting for so long in pf just to disband in one pull but I guess someone else shares the same feeling!
    PF is a big part of that community problem with the content. You have people that are going in half-hearted to get this stuff done and it takes away from the fun that could be had either from learning or getting clears.

    I always talk about this with frontline. Too many people aren't invested in the idea of making the effort to get a win. They just want a carrot, even if it's not the best one. The faster they eat those carrots, the sooner they get to the big prizes and yet they're left feeling stuffed and miserable about it. Others then try to say things like Rival Wings need more carrots. I disagree because of what I just described in FL.
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