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  1. #1
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    Valorath's Avatar
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    Valorath Aetherwalker
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    Mateus
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    Summoner Lv 90

    The housing system is trash!

    What I have to say has probably been said before in different ways. Nevertheless I shall add my voice to the chorus and make the message louder until something is done.

    First, let me be clear, I have no complaints about the rest of the game. It works pretty well as I was playing through it and farming up the gil to buy a house.

    But the housing system itself is still trash, still utter garbage.

    Getting a home, decorating it nice and using it to have people over and host RP is the only end game content I truly care about. But when I finally get there I find it's only a *chance* to buy one, once every few days.

    I ran roulettes to earn gil in anticipation of the new wards opening up in 6.3, bid on a medium house, waited, and lost.

    During this process I have experienced a variety of negative emotions. Anxiety, nervousness, animosity, jealousy, resentment, disappointment, and frustration. Those are not fun emotions.

    This is not fun, so why am I paying monthly for this? My inability to just earn the gil and buy a house outright is killing my motivation and draining all the fun out of the game for me.

    I do not understand why there aren't 100 wards or more already. But in my opinion, the *ONLY* way to fix the housing system is to remove the ridiculous artificial scarcity. Simply allow all wards to be open to any buyer and as wards fill up, dynamically spawn more wards and remove / consolidate them if they are becoming empty.

    I don't know why this hasn't been done already, probably some nonsense about old coding they can't chance and server space and blah blah blah. They are super popular now, they have the money to do it, there is no excuse. LOTRO did it that way and that's an older game. You could buy a house and if a ward was getting full, more would appear. If they could do it, then FFXIV sure as heck should be able to.

    It should not take a major content patch to release a paltry 6 wards or whatever. The game should spawn more wards as they fill up and I can just go to the plot I want and buy the house instantly, no waiting, no competing against other bid, and until that happens the housing system will remain broken trash.
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  2. #2
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    SlouchyBard's Avatar
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    Aki M'njor
    World
    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 90
    There is 9 that never got bidded on the ward I am in now.
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    embrace the beef chow mein

  3. #3
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    SlouchyBard's Avatar
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    Aki M'njor
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 90
    I just counted 100+ houses in Goblet that is up for lottery on Lamia.
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    embrace the beef chow mein

  4. #4
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Plenty of houses to go around.

    As for the system... it is 1000 times better than what it was before and also if you always try and go for popular ones like large or medium... you will most likely lose, get a small one to begin with... you can then attempt to move up the tier when lotteries get available.

    Putting your bet on a safe horse is always the best start else you may end standing empty handed for months, if 10 people bid on a house it is 10% chance to win it... 20 people 5% 100 people 1%

    For a cottage.... 50-100% chance to win currently, depending on the spot of course.

    I think this thread is just to complain for the reason to complain instead of trying to make your own game running.
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    Sourcy's Avatar
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    Lina Hisne
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    Malboro
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    Paladin Lv 40
    Quote Originally Posted by Valorath View Post
    I ran roulettes to earn gil in anticipation of the new wards opening up in 6.3, bid on a medium house, waited, and lost.
    This was your mistake. Mediums and Larges will always be heavily contested by FC's and Players due to how few there are. Now imagine trying since 2.4 for ANY small and never succeeding. That is where I and two of my friends are still to this day.

    The real issues with supply that could be fixed are:

    1. Make FC only wards only apply to Meds and Larges. Balmung and Mateus both have DOZENS of Smalls in FC only wards sitting there collecting dust. They will never be used until the servers allow new characters again, which leads to....
    2. Prevent multi account buyers of housing for submarine farms. Honestly just straight up remove all money from submarines or move them out of housing to the Grand company halls so we don't have incidents like what is happening in the other thread.
    3. Remove the grandfathering of multi house owners and take their houses. This is a real problem on your server in particular as TWO people own two entire wards of the goblet.
    4. Give priority on first time buyers over relocators for smalls. One major issue is that once someone gets a house, they aren't really ever removed from the pool of buyers as a whole. I have witnessed someone win a small house in the goblet, then when a plot that had a better view/access was free, they bid on it and won, preventing tons of first time buyers from getting a house.

    Or you know, bite the bullet for the tech upgrade to add enough wards to eliminate supply problems/ add instanced housing. The issue with these however is the Game engine itself has some very...difficult restrictions. It's why things like Larges having a pathetically small item limit exist in the first place.
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    Hycinthus's Avatar
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    Alonzo Vivas
    World
    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 97
    My understanding is the company is still affected by the global chip semiconductor shortage, hence why the tech limitation.
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    Raim's Avatar
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Stop saying "Plenty of houses to go around" when you are playing on some obscure low pop server. The vast majority of NA plots will be gone in one cycle from now. If you didn't get one during this cycle, you're probably not going to get a house for years unless they add new wards again suddenly.
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  8. #8
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    Lufie Newleaf
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    And people don't even really want smalls. The demand for medium and large is so much greater than availability. It would be really helpful to have a new system that focuses only on making larger plots available in much higher numbers somewhere.
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  9. #9
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    Mai Sakurajimaa
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 90
    No offense, but doesn't sound like you are really into housing. Have you even decorated an apartment? You haven't even gone for a small at all by the sounds of it. Looking at your character stats, you would spend 16-20m + on a medium and not be able to buy any furniture, nor craft it since you stated you saved up gil via doing roulettes. (must have taken a long time).

    I have a friend who has spent a year trying to get a medium and finally got one last cycle. Best decorator i know and well deserved because the house she made is stunning. Can you say the same? You'd get a medium house when you aren't even interested in decorating at all...

    In SE's defence, more servers are required for more wards. The housing wards are up 100% of the time whilst the housing instances itself aren't. The instances are shared with the Island also. More wards means more servers for the wards which means more running costs too. Yeah it sucks, but when auto demolition takes effect in a month or less, there should be a constant cycle of houses from players who bought a house and never really cared about it in the first place. Hell, the amount of houses around wards that don't even have the outside decorated.
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  10. #10
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    And people don't even really want smalls. The demand for medium and large is so much greater than availability. It would be really helpful to have a new system that focuses only on making larger plots available in much higher numbers somewhere.
    Smalls are charming. Oddly enough all the smalls are sold in wards as well as the medium and large. If all you want is a medium or large good luck that ain't going to happen soon unless you decide to transfer to one of the new worlds and even there competition will be a thing.

    They aren't going to redesign wards the best hope for more medium and large is the implementation of instant housing which probably isn't going to happen either although we could be surprised one day.
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