The housing system is trash!

[Valorath]

What I have to say has probably been said before in different ways. Nevertheless I shall add my voice to the chorus and make the message louder until something is done.

First, let me be clear, I have no complaints about the rest of the game. It works pretty well as I was playing through it and farming up the gil to buy a house.

But the housing system itself is still trash, still utter garbage.

Getting a home, decorating it nice and using it to have people over and host RP is the only end game content I truly care about. But when I finally get there I find it's only a *chance* to buy one, once every few days.

I ran roulettes to earn gil in anticipation of the new wards opening up in 6.3, bid on a medium house, waited, and lost.

During this process I have experienced a variety of negative emotions. Anxiety, nervousness, animosity, jealousy, resentment, disappointment, and frustration. Those are not fun emotions.

This is not fun, so why am I paying monthly for this? My inability to just earn the gil and buy a house outright is killing my motivation and draining all the fun out of the game for me.

I do not understand why there aren't 100 wards or more already. But in my opinion, the *ONLY* way to fix the housing system is to remove the ridiculous artificial scarcity. Simply allow all wards to be open to any buyer and as wards fill up, dynamically spawn more wards and remove / consolidate them if they are becoming empty.

I don't know why this hasn't been done already, probably some nonsense about old coding they can't chance and server space and blah blah blah. They are super popular now, they have the money to do it, there is no excuse. LOTRO did it that way and that's an older game. You could buy a house and if a ward was getting full, more would appear. If they could do it, then FFXIV sure as heck should be able to.

It should not take a major content patch to release a paltry 6 wards or whatever. The game should spawn more wards as they fill up and I can just go to the plot I want and buy the house instantly, no waiting, no competing against other bid, and until that happens the housing system will remain broken trash.

[SlouchyBard]

There is 9 that never got bidded on the ward I am in now.

[SlouchyBard]

I just counted 100+ houses in Goblet that is up for lottery on Lamia.

[Shuuli]

There is 9 that never got bidded on the ward I am in now.

Must be nice to not have friends to just move to a different data center by yourself. Very brave. Good luck for you.

Anyway,

For those who do have friends and connections and years built of other things in their existing FC and linkshells, we will get our house eventually, in approx 10 years. I believe.

[Themarvin]

Plenty of houses to go around.

As for the system... it is 1000 times better than what it was before and also if you always try and go for popular ones like large or medium... you will most likely lose, get a small one to begin with... you can then attempt to move up the tier when lotteries get available.

Putting your bet on a safe horse is always the best start else you may end standing empty handed for months, if 10 people bid on a house it is 10% chance to win it... 20 people 5% 100 people 1%

For a cottage.... 50-100% chance to win currently, depending on the spot of course.

I think this thread is just to complain for the reason to complain instead of trying to make your own game running.

[Spiritech]

Everyone keeps saying the system has improved, please explain to me how a waiting list made randomized is improvement. Please explain how if you walk into a packed DMV and then a streamer suddenly brings in a substantial increase to the DMV. The soloution is to randomize the order of the line...... please anyone explain to me how it's a better system and how.

Before, getting into the housing market was the most difficult part (because of the RNG) and then you could move around freely. They litterally just made new players problems EVERYONES problems, dispersing the target audience that they should have aimed for to begin with. This new housing system is only "better" to benefinit SOME players only RECENTLY joining the housing search. I personally have lost six lotteries and have waited OVER FOUR YEARS for this to improve, and in my genuine evidenced experience it's substantially worse.

Lets all go to mcdonalds and wait halfway though the drivethrough to then be yelled at EVERYONE PARK FOR A WEEK AND PICK A NUMBER WE'RE LOW ON BURGERS!
It's a joke. 100%

[Jojoya]

Everyone keeps saying the system has improved, please explain to me how a waiting list made randomized is improvement. Please explain how if you walk into a packed DMV and then a streamer suddenly brings in a substantial increase to the DMV. The soloution is to randomize the order of the line...... please anyone explain to me how it's a better system and how.

Before, getting into the housing market was the most difficult part (because of the RNG) and then you could move around freely. They litterally just made new players problems EVERYONES problems, dispersing the target audience that they should have aimed for to begin with. This new housing system is only "better" to benefinit SOME players only RECENTLY joining the housing search. I personally have lost six lotteries and have waited OVER FOUR YEARS for this to improve, and in my genuine evidenced experience it's substantially worse.

Lets all go to mcdonalds and wait halfway though the drivethrough to then be yelled at EVERYONE PARK FOR A WEEK AND PICK A NUMBER WE'RE LOW ON BURGERS!
It's a joke. 100%

The lottery makes things better in the sense that people can now take 2 minutes to enter the lottery and have 8 hours available to play the rest of the game instead of spending those 8 hours clicking a placard.

Obviously it doesn't address the core problem of supply.

Would you really be happier sitting in the drive-thru lane at McDonalds for 8 hours just to be told that the driver before you got the last burger?

Like, regardless of how anyone feels about it or whether or not it's a good thing, it's extremely clear that the intent is for there to be no difference between veteran players and new players in terms of accessibility.

It's more that the 8 hour a week player has the same opportunity as the 8 hour a day player. Veterans will always have the advantage of already having the gil while the new player will be struggling to get those millions at first.

[Sourcy]

I ran roulettes to earn gil in anticipation of the new wards opening up in 6.3, bid on a medium house, waited, and lost.

This was your mistake. Mediums and Larges will always be heavily contested by FC's and Players due to how few there are. Now imagine trying since 2.4 for ANY small and never succeeding. That is where I and two of my friends are still to this day.

The real issues with supply that could be fixed are:

1. Make FC only wards only apply to Meds and Larges. Balmung and Mateus both have DOZENS of Smalls in FC only wards sitting there collecting dust. They will never be used until the servers allow new characters again, which leads to....
2. Prevent multi account buyers of housing for submarine farms. Honestly just straight up remove all money from submarines or move them out of housing to the Grand company halls so we don't have incidents like what is happening in the other thread.
3. Remove the grandfathering of multi house owners and take their houses. This is a real problem on your server in particular as TWO people own two entire wards of the goblet.
4. Give priority on first time buyers over relocators for smalls. One major issue is that once someone gets a house, they aren't really ever removed from the pool of buyers as a whole. I have witnessed someone win a small house in the goblet, then when a plot that had a better view/access was free, they bid on it and won, preventing tons of first time buyers from getting a house.

Or you know, bite the bullet for the tech upgrade to add enough wards to eliminate supply problems/ add instanced housing. The issue with these however is the Game engine itself has some very...difficult restrictions. It's why things like Larges having a pathetically small item limit exist in the first place.

[Hycinthus]

My understanding is the company is still affected by the global chip semiconductor shortage, hence why the tech limitation.

[Raim]

Stop saying "Plenty of houses to go around" when you are playing on some obscure low pop server. The vast majority of NA plots will be gone in one cycle from now. If you didn't get one during this cycle, you're probably not going to get a house for years unless they add new wards again suddenly.