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    Player
    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    And people don't even really want smalls. The demand for medium and large is so much greater than availability. It would be really helpful to have a new system that focuses only on making larger plots available in much higher numbers somewhere.
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    And people don't even really want smalls. The demand for medium and large is so much greater than availability. It would be really helpful to have a new system that focuses only on making larger plots available in much higher numbers somewhere.
    Smalls are charming. Oddly enough all the smalls are sold in wards as well as the medium and large. If all you want is a medium or large good luck that ain't going to happen soon unless you decide to transfer to one of the new worlds and even there competition will be a thing.

    They aren't going to redesign wards the best hope for more medium and large is the implementation of instant housing which probably isn't going to happen either although we could be surprised one day.
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    Mai Sakurajimaa
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    Miner Lv 90
    No offense, but doesn't sound like you are really into housing. Have you even decorated an apartment? You haven't even gone for a small at all by the sounds of it. Looking at your character stats, you would spend 16-20m + on a medium and not be able to buy any furniture, nor craft it since you stated you saved up gil via doing roulettes. (must have taken a long time).

    I have a friend who has spent a year trying to get a medium and finally got one last cycle. Best decorator i know and well deserved because the house she made is stunning. Can you say the same? You'd get a medium house when you aren't even interested in decorating at all...

    In SE's defence, more servers are required for more wards. The housing wards are up 100% of the time whilst the housing instances itself aren't. The instances are shared with the Island also. More wards means more servers for the wards which means more running costs too. Yeah it sucks, but when auto demolition takes effect in a month or less, there should be a constant cycle of houses from players who bought a house and never really cared about it in the first place. Hell, the amount of houses around wards that don't even have the outside decorated.
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    Tux Pizzababe
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    There was no need to make so many FCs wards.
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    Ayan Calvesse
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    Honestly there are plenty of houses - even on busy servers.

    There are a "few" exceptions like Balmung.
    Its because people will not settle for a small; they want medium or bust and so they act like they cannot get something that is going to take a long time to achieve in general.

    That said now that shell FC's are a common practice SE is going to have to do something about that before long. Because now that "FC's" are competing for private homes it means that the odds of getting a private estate you want are dropping significantly due to you competing with peoples alts.

    Until the issue of shell FCs which are taking property and thus violating the ToS; they really should drastically reduce the wards that "FCs" can bid in. I would love to see the data SE has on how many 1 account FC's are bidding on houses as it now seems to be common practice.
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    Player Battler-Ushiromiya's Avatar
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    Battler Ushiromiya
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    Malboro
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    Paladin Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Valorath View Post
    But in my opinion, the *ONLY* way to fix the housing system is to remove the ridiculous artificial scarcity.
    Literal skill issue lol

    The scarcity is the only thing that makes housing appealing. If you remove the scarcity, nobody would bother. It would be dead on arrival. The furniture market would die too since everyone would have a home instead of new owners cycling through.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya View Post
    Literal skill issue lol

    The scarcity is the only thing that makes housing appealing. If you remove the scarcity, nobody would bother. It would be dead on arrival. The furniture market would die too since everyone would have a home instead of new owners cycling through.
    The scarcity is what makes it appealing to you. You don't get to make that claim on behalf of others.

    I absolutely would bother without the scarcity because I enjoy housing.

    The furmiture market dies when no one is able to get a house because of the scarcity. If there is always an influx of new owners, there is always more gil to be made. In addition, the more owners there are the more that will want to redecorate on occasion, creating more demand for furnishings.
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    Fultorn Kilnson
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The scarcity is what makes it appealing to you. You don't get to make that claim on behalf of others.

    I absolutely would bother without the scarcity because I enjoy housing.

    The furniture market dies when no one is able to get a house because of the scarcity. If there is always an influx of new owners, there is always more gil to be made. In addition, the more owners there are the more that will want to redecorate on occasion, creating more demand for furnishings.
    When a group of players with multiple accounts buys up wards and sit on them on purpose is a problem. I do suggest 1 person per plot regardless of how many accounts they have, via an account verifying system. it would put an end to folks having multiple plots. and if the "Muh privacy" issue comes up that is an invalid excuse to exploit the housing system the way folks do...
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    So fresh it'll smack yo momma!!!

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    Estrid Foal
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    Siren
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya View Post
    Literal skill issue lol

    The scarcity is the only thing that makes housing appealing. If you remove the scarcity, nobody would bother. It would be dead on arrival. The furniture market would die too since everyone would have a home instead of new owners cycling through.
    Speak for yourself man, people have been wanting houses for YEARS now! The demand will always been there.

    Hell if anything removing the scarcity and implementing instanced housing would allow the furniture market to grow even more since you'd have a constant flow of people buying houses every week/month. Like Jojoya said the market dies 2 months in when all the plots are taken up and everyone has either-

    A. exhausted their fund to decorating their new home
    B. Decorated there new home and now have no incentive to decorate it further.

    This leads to the furniture market dying out expect during year round holidays when a few new housing items are added to the game. (Since people enjoying buying seasonal items every year.)
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    Mai Sakurajimaa
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    Lich
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estrid View Post
    Speak for yourself man, people have been wanting houses for YEARS now! The demand will always been there.

    Hell if anything removing the scarcity and implementing instanced housing would allow the furniture market to grow even more since you'd have a constant flow of people buying houses every week/month. Like Jojoya said the market dies 2 months in when all the plots are taken up and everyone has either-

    A. exhausted their fund to decorating their new home
    B. Decorated there new home and now have no incentive to decorate it further.

    This leads to the furniture market dying out expect during year round holidays when a few new housing items are added to the game. (Since people enjoying buying seasonal items every year.)
    Quick ventures also help kill the market. The amount of items that have no crafters on them because they came from quick ventures break the supply/demand on the market. With auto demolition at least, there will be a constant supply of houses now every week rather than the odd few that were given up willingly.
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