The Official Forums is an EXTREMELY poor example of a "Good Community"

[ThaCa]

I think a lot of the "angry" takes are because people feel like they aren't heard.

There's been a lot of feedback on multiple things over years, but the english community seems to be sidelined most of the time and getting very little aknowledgement for things they bring up.

This leads to a loop of frustration and eventually people just shouting into void.

[Thaciscokidd]

I think a lot of the "angry" takes are because people feel like they aren't heard.

There's been a lot of feedback on multiple things over years, but the english community seems to be sidelined most of the time and getting very little aknowledgement for things they bring up.

This leads to a loop of frustration and eventually people just shouting into void.

This.

2ch has gotten more official responses that the official forums have and those dudes are some of the most toxic/angry players in the 14 player base.

I'll admit I do go there and 4ch, and if I get some Hennessy in my body Reddit and if I really wanna slum it the other R gaming site. And what I've notice its mostly people congregating around likeminded people and mods/jannies cleaning up the dissenters. The only problem(good thing?) here is that with no mods/jannies to police and steer conversation, a lot of this place is just a bunch of people yelling at each other till they get tired and/or find a new thread to yell at each other till they get tired.

[Rokke]

I think a lot of the "angry" takes are because people feel like they aren't heard.

There's been a lot of feedback on multiple things over years, but the english community seems to be sidelined most of the time and getting very little aknowledgement for things they bring up.

This leads to a loop of frustration and eventually people just shouting into void.

Its not even just the english community, the forums as a whole feel abandoned. In ye olden days every language would get occasional responses from a mod, community rep member, or sometimes even devs, but radio silence is the norm now.

It doesn't help that the amount of player to dev Q&As has dropped over the last few years due to covid. Yelling into the void is a pretty apt description.

[DixieBellOCE]

Its not even just the english community, the forums as a whole feel abandoned. In ye olden days every language would get occasional responses from a mod, community rep member, or sometimes even devs, but radio silence is the norm now.

It doesn't help that the amount of player to dev Q&As has dropped over the last few years due to covid. Yelling into the void is a pretty apt description.

This basically.

The community moderators only ever step in to remove a post, they don't talk or communicate in any way with the player base.

Its the same downhill road that Blizzard went down, and its a path of no return.

They need to step off twitter/reddit/other forums and focus on their OFFICIAL forums.

[SassyAssassin]

It's creepy. I hope I don't say anything too out there so I don't have a damn cult behind me like he does.

Nah don’t worry, neither of you are as important as you made yourselves believe.

[Gemina]

I'm really sorry to hear about your family situation, OP. Regret and remorse are virtues that teach many of life's most important lessons, but you can't allow them to weigh you down. We fall so we can pick ourselves up. I do hope you find peace if you are still seeking it.

As for the forums, the anonymity granted by the internet allows us to see who people truly are. They say the things that would never leave their lips in a RL conversation as there is no repercussion or consequence for it. I'm not talking about a ban from the forums, or even in game. I'm talking about degradation of character, and allowing RL people to see who they are under the mask they wear in society. Bear in mind that this falls on the laps of both the toxic, and the righteous. The latter is not exempt because many people are afraid to speak the truth when they know they will be punished for it. These people can handle facing heat and contempt on the forums opposed to things like losing their job, social status, or even a loved one. But make no mistake; they wear masks as well.

Ultimately, even though FFXIV is a game, it is still something that people invest a great amount of time into, and people will defend what they feel is right whether they are among the toxic or the righteous; or are unknowingly mutable of the two. If this is where people come to let go of that negative and/or aggressive energy, I would much rather have that happen in a thread like the one in question, than people harming others.

That is all I will say regarding this matter, other than I truly do love this community.

[Connor]

I feel like the forums is a very poor representation of the actual community in the game. If you based it on the forums you’d expect people to be mean spirited, aggressive, and vindictive. But after playing since 1.0 I’ve rarely ever seen people argue or otherwise abuse each other in-game. It happens of course, but the general vibe is nowhere near as volatile as it feels on the forums.

Honestly it feels like the forums are some kind of weird black hole of circular arguments that get stretched out ad infinitum but never actually go anywhere. But since it’s all inside this black hole, it can’t leak out into the game lol, so you have the forum community looking like a spaghetti while the in-game community is still an amorphous blob.

Basically, the forums to me seem to give an entirely different impression of the actual ffxiv community. But then, considering it’s the internet, I guess it’s unfortunately inevitable that there’d so many ‘troll posts’ (for want for a better word lol)

[Heroman3003]

The forums are great at representing the absolute worst, most toxic parts of the playerbase, as thats where people who love to talk about the game more than playing it will go.

[Renalt]

"The Official Forums is an EXTREMELY poor example of a "Good Community"

Given you're a prime example of the issues with it, no duh

What's funny buddy is that between you and Aveyond...I respect you highly. You may be aggressively hostile to pretty much everyone you come across but at least you acknowledge someone said something...even if it's to tell them they are a big poopy face and then dismiss it all together.

You're like my Kurt Angle. You may be a heel, but you are MY heel and I at least get some sort of entertainment when you show up.

Aveyond though? Sorry I can't respect him. I get enjoyment though in people's responses to his stuff...just not what he himself actually says.

I know people could search my posting history and find im a big walking contradiction at one point or another. Everything I say is opinion and opinions change.

As of now...you may be a shinning example of what I don't like in how people go about thing...but you're also a special kind of malace that I dunno...I kinda dig it.

Again...I'm one big walking contradiction. I know.

[Hurlstone]

Again...I'm one big walking contradiction. I know.

I think anyone who says they are not is lying or kidding themselves. We are all walking messes of contradictions and bias, its what makes us human. For better or for worse, I think forums are actually one of the best places to see that.