Undercutting

[WinglessSeraphim]

I think it was more the time needed to level that discouraged players from trying it than the difficulty (since what difficulty there was only existed for the Master recipes). As soon as leveling became easier, almost everyone I knew started leveling crafting and gathering. Most of them still don't touch Master recipes.

I'm talking about when you had to level up BSM to get Byregot's Blessing instead of automatically getting it when you just mindlessly level say CUL, for example. Or to craft new gear, you had to play switch with your specialist stones.

[Jojoya]

I'm talking about when you had to level up BSM to get Byregot's Blessing instead of automatically getting it when you just mindlessly level say CUL, for example. Or to craft new gear, you had to play switch with your specialist stones.

Getting the cross class skills wasn't hard, it was just time consuming. Once you had the other class leveled sufficiently, it was a simple on/off toggle for the cross class skill you were going to need to use.

Switching Specialist just needed some advance planning based on what you wanted to make and maybe a little bit extra scrip grinding to buy the extra Soul(s).

As many will point out, crafting has never truly been hard. We were at the mercy of harsh RNG and the time commitment. Most players preferred to spend their time doing other content that had kinder RNG. SE reduced the time commitment by substantially increasing XP earned then removed the worst of the RNG (just to add some back with Expert).

Being an omnicrafter didn't have any meaning to me other than convenience. It was a choice of where I wanted to invest my available time just as other players would skip crafting/gathering to invest their time into being good at PvP or Savage raiding.

[Monokhrom]

As someone who hasn’t done much crafting and buys lots off the market board, I love it when people do that. Saves me so much Gil ^.^

[JohncarterIx]

i see it a lott goes from 150 k to 29 k in 1 shot

[Jojoya]

i see it a lott goes from 150 k to 29 k in 1 shot

What item(s) are you referring to?

If it's the items coming out of the Island Sanctuary lootboxes, it's because the market is getting flooded with the items now that most players have the Favors unlocked.

[AlliciaCapulet]

If you think that the item is worth millions instead of a few hundred of gils, buy from the competition at lower cost and sell them milions.

But that's how the market works. Personnally, when I see someone undercutting me from 1 gil, I undercut of 15% of the value and flood the market. Undercut for real or don't do it.

Making gils is not really hard, items worth millions like rare mount or minions are the worst way to make money as they are hard to farm and have few buyers.

Selling things that are craftable/collectable is the easiest way to make money. And if you want to setup a new price, just do it.

[CNitsah]

It wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for the bots that automatically undercut the lowest version from 1 gil every 30 min, unless you undercut by a lot. That's something SE barely tackles, even if that's how gold sellers get their gold.

What item(s) are you referring to?

If it's the items coming out of the Island Sanctuary lootboxes, it's because the market is getting flooded with the items now that most players have the Favors unlocked.

I would add that the servers where kinda dead for the past month, and people came back for the XVI collab.

[Anya_Synia]

If you think that the item is worth millions instead of a few hundred of gils, buy from the competition at lower cost and sell them milions.

But that's how the market works. Personnally, when I see someone undercutting me from 1 gil, I undercut of 15% of the value and flood the market. Undercut for real or don't do it.

Making gils is not really hard, items worth millions like rare mount or minions are the worst way to make money as they are hard to farm and have few buyers.

Selling things that are craftable/collectable is the easiest way to make money. And if you want to setup a new price, just do it.

That only works on under cutters that actually care about selling most just want to get rid and make room in the inventory and won't look at the retainer again until the inventory is full again.

[Jojoya]

That only works on under cutters that actually care about selling most just want to get rid and make room in the inventory and won't look at the retainer again until the inventory is full again.

The big undercutters are usually exactly that type of player. They're not out for max profit, they just want to get rid of what they have to sell for what they considerable a reasonable price. They're rarely out to crash the market to manipulate the market price (though I have done that on a few occasions when I thought the market price was excessively high for an item with low cost to make, especially if sales history made it look like one player was trying to manipulate the price for profit).

If the item is in high demand, the undercut should have no impact on the normal market price for the item since it will disappear almost as soon as the item was listed. If the item is in low demand and the price only continues to sink, then the price correction was probably needed because no one was interested in buying it at the going price.

[Thrivaios]

Work smarter, not harder.

The MB is a battleground. Undercutters exist and won't go away any time soon, but we're about to see a shift in the board as we do every expansion. Time to prepare is now!