Quote Originally Posted by ZavosEsperian View Post
This is an unfortunate issue with discussion here, as most of the regulars of the lore forums will accept their various headcanons as truth where these truths require the reader/player of the game to make a "correct" interpretation of events to reach. From there, these individuals will attempt to explain why their truth is wholly correct without compromise or without accepting the logical leaps (headcanons) required to make their truth as they see it the absolute truth intended by the writers. It's why I take an approach that is more in-line with what Yoshi-P and the writers of the game intended, which leaves a good chunk of the events of the game open to player interpretation. I find this behavior extremely troubling as it would suggest the narrative of the lore forums agrees with is heavily controlled when, in reality, there is a fair amount of open-endedness due to the writers purposely writing the story in that way.
Yeah, it took me awhile to get there, but I understand that now. If my character's perspective is the only one that matters then yes, Venat is a good, loving mommy. After all, she eradicated her species and several planets worth of her creations just to ensure I'd be born. What's more loving than that?

Quote Originally Posted by RavLandslide View Post
I personally think you're giving Venat too much credit. She was a fighter and a friend, not a genius. She was the person who sundered the world on, what the cutscene made out to be, an impulse, with seemingly no further plans besides waiting for us to be born. She of course did know that we were going to be saved, but I don't think we told her every second of what we experienced/read/heard or that she was able to perfectly lay out a plan that would result in the Calamity being stopped. G'raha and his pals made a clever plan which Hydaelyn knew would happen, but did she, herself, personally make that happen? I personally do not think so.
Though I've seen multiple instances of her working to maintain the timeline and none of her trying to change it. She handed Ardbert and his friends those crystals knowing what would happen to them, to their world. She left Ardbert roaming the world alone for 100 years because she knew he'd be needed. Imagine how it'd feel to wander a world suffering because of your actions (even though you'd been set up) unable to talk to or interact with anyone for a hundred years. I don't know about you, but I couldn't hand out those crystals knowing what would happen to that world, to those people. But she needed the WoL to die so that G'raha brings the Crystal Tower to the past, so that we can use it to come to her and her reign of terror may continue.

Knowing the full situation, gratitude would have been insulting. "Thank you for providing the tools I need to assure my ascension in this horrific loop I've locked us in."