Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon View Post
Why you're assuming she wanted to be a god for praise or worship and not to have complete, unilateral control over the fate of the star, which she did, is beyond me. She did what she set out to do. We're her strong little sparks. And now she can peace out never having to live in the world she created.
What I mean to say is that the way you've been going on, is as if Venat did this to fulfill her own personal goals or that she's some schemer who plotted the destruction of her own race for nefarious means when there's nothing in the game itself that proves that. It's really difficult to discuss what's going on in the story when you seem to be going off of your own personal analysis of what you believe is going on in characters' heads or how you feel about the characters rather than anything presented in the game so we're on two completely different pages.

The facts are that the world had ended. Zodiark was summoned to save the survivors and to fortify the celestial aether, kill the beasts, and then later to reseed life with second sacrifice.

Then an undetermined amount of time later an amount of people "too numerous too ignore" opposed the Convocation's vision of bringing back the sacrifices and believed that humanity as it was can't survive another Final Days and that there had to be a paradigm shift in order for life to continue.

Again, the facts as presented don't say that she alone opposed the Convocation or that she lied to her supporters and they didn't know what was coming. The third encyclopedia says they knew that she planned to sunder the star. She could very well throw out the script and try something else to prevent the Final Days but the only path she knew that had a chance going forward was the one that involved the Sundering. Since the person who told her all of this came from the timeline where she chose to sunder, the other options to save all life in the universe were unknowns and to take one of them would be a gamble.


Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon View Post
As for Emet-Selch destroying the Ancients by not letting Elidibus kill us. What? At that point he has recovered the memories of the future Venat never told him about. He knows it's already a lost battle and that his people will be returned to the lifestream to be reborn into the world of Venat's design. All he's doing by snapping us out of the void is sparing Elidibus any more fruitless suffering, because unlike Venat he actually does care about the suffering of people. He doesn't want to. He wishes he could be as ruthless as she is, but he just isn't. Allowing Elidibus to kill us doesn't mean that the world is restored to how it was. It means that Elidibus must continue to labor alone for thousands of years attempting to restore his world and he doesn't have all the information needed. What you're witnessing in that moment isn't a betrayal of the Ancients or their extermination, but a surrender. Venat won. His people will be reborn into the torture chamber of her design and not the paradise of his youth.
This is... certainly something and I'm not sure where to start with this one, but where in the story is it said that Emet-Selch is attempting to spare Elidbus suffering and that he "wishes he could be as ruthless as she is"? Where are you getting that Emet-Selch's act was a surrender to Hydaelyn and anything other than saving the WoL? Is this written somewhere in the script or is this your conjecture that you're presenting as fact?