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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon View Post
    She says this as she's shuffling off the one person with knowledge of the future and thus the ability to alter events back to their own time. Then she proceeds to not make a single verifiable attempt to change the future and several known acts to ensure things went down the way you told her.

    Her words at face value make you think she's preparing to fight Meteion, but when you look at her actions you realize her words were just to placate the WoL and get them out of the way so she could go do her genocide without her pesky little champion warning anyone else. This is the 40th half-truth she's thrown our way. Just like all the other half-truths she's told us on our journey.

    We even offer to stay and help. Wonder why she didn't accept...
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I pointed out in my prior post that it was a combination of inaction and sabotage, not solely the latter alone. Giving the Ancients space to build up false hope and come to their own solutions is irrelevant when her reaction to the Convocation coming up with creative solutions is to wipe out everyone who survived the Final Days. None of the writing surrounding Venat is particularly consistent, granted, though one thing that is consistent is her decision to refuse to reveal the true cause behind the Final Days or express her concerns in full without deflection and deception.
    I'm sorry, but this is the lore subforum. We kinda need to take an evidence-based approach, where things the game produces has to be refuted only by things the game also produces. While Venat-as-Hydaelyn (much like the Ascians) is someone who lies by omission rather often (at least, as far as her relatively meager screentime permitted), you're going to need to prove a bit more substantially that she was doing anything like this, or that the Convocation had any 'creative solutions' that she was thoughtlessly stopping. Otherwise, this is like going into the PvP subforum and telling them that Frontlines is fair and balanced because the Mathromancer job you've imagined is a perfect counter to the DRK/AST/DRG meta.

    I'm sure you feel very strongly, but until you can cite something, I'm not very convinced. If we just keep doing uncited stuff we end up way too deep in the weeds of presumed truths. If you're stuck, hit up Gamer Escape, they've basically got the whole game script recorded.

    EDIT: Or, you can focus on the subject of the actual thread we're arguing in, and instead you can just say that you're ignoring what the game is saying to create an alternative narrative. Which I can't stop you from doing, but I'd like to know for sure.
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    Last edited by Cleretic; 01-04-2024 at 05:39 PM.

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