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  1. #61
    Player Kazhar's Avatar
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    Kazek Amilia
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_satron View Post
    there's a fight when the addon literally tells you cause where to go before the animation of the boss tells you where to go, that is p8s p1 during torch flame and reforged reflection.
    There's no doubt those add-ons exist for savage, but OP mentionned map achievements which means that it can only be about the new dungeon or new alliance raid. Do people really use add-ons for these?
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  2. #62
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    'not a troll post'

    Posts on a level 30 character.

    Yeah something doesn't mesh there.
    As much as I hate to defend the OP, can you really blame people for that?

    I was harassed in-game by someone on the forums about... 4 or so months ago? When I transferred to Dynamis and made a new character for the bonus of getting level 30 on it and getting free days of membership and free gil, I figured it'd be pretty smart to set it as my character for the forums(although I changed it a bit since the profile pic wouldn't load immediately).
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    Casti_EL's Avatar
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    Casti Elensar
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I had noticed how almost 80% of the random players in my instance moving even before the prompt for the next aoe was even going to cast.
    I experience this all the time and did so with first-timers in the new Alliance Raid on day 1 (and several of the people there I can 100% guarantee don't use add-ons).

    It can be caused by lag - the prompt displays for me about 0.5-1 seconds after anyone more local to the server, by which time they've already seen the prompt and started moving. (I play on US server but based in UK).

    Not saying that what the OP experienced was not add-on users (though on day 1 of a new patch I find it unlikely as stuff like that usually takes a few days to get updated) but as an example of blatant add-on use? It's a flawed example.
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    Casti Elensar
    Gilgamesh (Aether)
    Validation <<ERROR>>

  4. #64
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    As much as I hate to defend the OP, can you really blame people for that?

    I was harassed in-game by someone on the forums about... 4 or so months ago? When I transferred to Dynamis and made a new character for the bonus of getting level 30 on it and getting free days of membership and free gil, I figured it'd be pretty smart to set it as my character for the forums(although I changed it a bit since the profile pic wouldn't load immediately).

    I've gotten exactly one message in game related to the forums, and it was when I was still on Balmung before heavensward dropped lol. They told me to stop embarrassing the server. Balmung didn't need any help with that. It did well enough on its own.
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    Iyrnthota's Avatar
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    Iyrnthota Sparrow
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    Spriggan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Sometimes when playing a BLM I'll move into a spot I think will be safe and pray I'm right.
    Occasionally I am.

    For everything else, there's Manaward.
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  6. #66
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Ninja Lv 83
    Extensive guides already exist for pretty much ever piece of content you could be referring to, and the fights go in the same order every time with minor variations. Like, what do you expect, honestly. What is this thread even about? That people are ... predicting the predictable? That people are playing too well? God I wish I had that problem in duty/partyfinder.
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  7. #67
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    Neri's Avatar
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    Neridia Neririncia
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    Tonberry
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I remember this guy's 1st controversial thread about monk rotation is comparable to manual control. I never took him seriously anymore after that.
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  8. #68
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    Urielparadox's Avatar
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    Smily Kweh
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    1) I did this with most my raid friends in our full party of 8, we only had 3 deaths the entire raid, and some of us never even got hit. We were giving call out to our fc mates in voice as we saw the mechanics and what they would probably do/confirmed they do.

    A lot of these bosses follow some very easy to follow mechanic rules that savage raiders are used to. Predicting aoes and such are possible because most the bosses repeat their rotation, while maybe adding more steps each time, allowing for a preposition in the first part of the mech once the second cycle has started.

    2) I move a lot when I don't know a fight, I can't tell you how many times I just went, "its been long enough since a mechanic the last one was x type so this next one will probably be different, i'll move to this spot I think is good" and pre-emptively moved to a random spot and ended up in the safe spot. It happens a lot sometimes; other times I put myself in the middle of bad and doesn't work out.

    3) I was wondering why no one was uploading Savage spaghettis last week so I asked other people in Savage if they know why. This was there reply, "They did some major changes in 6.3, most likely to make 3rd party tools harder and they aren't working" so there weren't even working addons from what I was told until after the first maintenance like 4 or 5 days after patch.

    4) my fc had a good laugh in voice when I told them about this post, recounting our first adventure through this raid and the sheer amount of raises we casted. While the fights are fun and the mechanics are cool, over all this raid was vastly mechanically easier than the last.
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    Last edited by Urielparadox; 01-24-2023 at 05:36 AM.

  9. #69
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    The patterns for Purgation have already been figured out in videos, like this one. Think only one of these have one variation she didn't cover. So, if someone searched up the trial guides, they might have come across stuff like this.

    https://youtu.be/TNzz215p_N4
    I'm aware Purgation has a logic to its patterns.

    I'm more thinking about his other mechanics like the random enumerations/stacks/spreads during the rotating AoEs, and the spinner AoE and spread/stacks during his cloak phase as those are the things add-ons can give you several seconds advance warning of.

    There' a difference between positioning/calling out for a mechanic the instant its telegraph goes out vs. before it even appears. One of the chief offenders back in the early era were the Hawk Blaster variants in A11S as the visual telegraph only appears halfway through its longish cast time, but add-on users would know the instant it starts.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 01-25-2023 at 12:22 AM.

  10. #70
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Hazy Dreams
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    'not a troll post'

    Posts on a level 30 character.

    Yeah something doesn't mesh there.
    Pfft. A lot of people post on alts to not be tracked down and harassed in game. Low level does not equate to a troll or anything suspicious.

    There’s also the people who go to someone’s profile to find anything about their character to discredit someone instead of addressing their comment.

    You did this

    So I don’t blame people for posting on alts
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