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  1. #31
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    It used to be easy to spot ones using addons. If you went next to player using them, you would get lag spikes. Got those all the time on Aion from ones using them.
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    Have you considered that maybe, maybe they just have a lower ping than you?
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    Can you just tell us what instance you're talking about so half the comments aren't just people guessing?

    Yes cheaters cheat. It's way easier to do now than before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
    Can you just tell us what instance you're talking about so half the comments aren't just people guessing?

    Yes cheaters cheat. It's way easier to do now than before.
    Probably not telling so that people can't explain how you can figure out tells before the telegraphs and mechanics go out.
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    Mortal Fist

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    I've run into those people in P8S sometimes.

    They call out the version of the mechanics that are happening before the boss even visibly telegraphs them as things like Natural Alignment/Twist Nature's variants have different spell IDs that add-ons can distinguish.

    I'd assume the TC is talking about the new trial because he similarly has mechanics that have multiple potential variations, but the same name.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 01-22-2023 at 05:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I've run into those people in P8S sometimes.

    They call out the version of the mechanics that are happening before the boss even visibly telegraphs them as things like Natural Alignment/Twist Nature's variants have different spell IDs that add-ons can distinguish.

    I'd assume the TC is talking about the new trial because he similarly has mechanics that have multiple potential variations, but the same name.
    The patterns for Purgation have already been figured out in videos, like this one. Think only one of these have one variation she didn't cover. So, if someone searched up the trial guides, they might have come across stuff like this.

    https://youtu.be/TNzz215p_N4
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  7. #37
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    Have you thought of the fact that maybe they ran this dungeon multiple times and know exactly what’s going to happen ?
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    I think I understand what OP is referring to.

    There are some mechanics in the game where you cannot tell the safe spot right away. You need to wait for 3s~5s into the cast bar or boss/arena animation to figure out the safe spot. Yet there are people who will immediately move to the safe spot before anything is clear.

    I didn't raid in a while, but one example of this was E4S. People with addons knew where titan is going to punch (front or back) even before his punch animation shows it. So people can dodge and pre-position earlier.
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    Last edited by Yeol; 01-22-2023 at 07:26 PM.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by seerstone View Post
    so much this. many people watch/read guides before they actually enter dungeons and raids
    Really? Because I got chewed out on these forums for suggesting people watch a video before doing a dungeon, raid or trial. The general consensus on the forum was "everyone should go in blind to experience the story first! It's fun to learn to mechanics on the fly!"

    So...um...okay. Which direction is the hivemind moving in now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    So...um...okay. Which direction is the hivemind moving in now?
    It largely depends on the first few replies in a given topic. If the first reply makes fun of the OP then everyone follows. Otherwise they are at risk to be called out as well.
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

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