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  1. #101
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Whalaqee totems are actually a nod back to how BLU spells in FF8 were learned for Quistis...by using items. That was the only time in the franchise (until now) where spells were learned with items. Every other iteration has learned spells by seeing them, getting hit by them, or siphoning them from the enemy (Quina and Kimahri).
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  2. #102
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Peter Redhill
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    Halicarnassus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Limited Jobs, Limited Races, Limited servers and now Limited Deep Dungeon!
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  3. #103
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Also if deep dungeon, no more exclusive rewards and the top rewards not possible to get unless you use a real job to do so, it is to easy to exploit/cheat yourself through as a Blumage in any content.
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  4. #104
    Player Ravenblade1979's Avatar
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    Anastasia Minou-rose
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_satron View Post
    1. keep it, don't change it
    2. become a normal job
    2.1 become a caster dps
    2.2 become a job that can change to any roles (tank/healer/dps) with mimicry
    3. add new challenge/content for the job like potd/hoh achievements and titles only for BLU

    pick only one of them

    the problem with number 2 is that, what will happen to all that spell/skill that we have collected? are they going to be removed? do we have to collect new spell/skill again?
    you would probably either 1) lose mostly all those spells or 2) they would be adjusted so much that they wouldn't be what they are now. hence made into a normal dps lol.
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  5. #105
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    4clubbedace's Avatar
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    Viorel Amala
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_satron View Post
    1. keep it, don't change it
    2. become a normal job
    2.1 become a caster dps
    2.2 become a job that can change to any roles (tank/healer/dps) with mimicry
    3. add new challenge/content for the job like potd/hoh achievements and titles only for BLU

    pick only one of them

    the problem with number 2 is that, what will happen to all that spell/skill that we have collected? are they going to be removed? do we have to collect new spell/skill again?
    i thought letting blu into the eureka/boz and the deep dungeons would be fun, esp for elementts in eureka

    just give alternative titles to it, blu solo cannot get necromancer, but could get another title insteead
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  6. #106
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    Raoabolic's Avatar
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Considering the dev's interest in making sure every class is balanced to a tee, I can see blu scare them to no end if they think about it as a proper job. lol
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  7. #107
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by 4clubbedace View Post
    i thought letting blu into the eureka/boz and the deep dungeons would be fun, esp for elementts in eureka

    just give alternative titles to it, blu solo cannot get necromancer, but could get another title insteead
    This. Hell, BLU could use the system differently for Eureka as well. Can't use the elemental wheel, but in return can learn BLU spells that can reduce elemental damage to them, with their own elemental attack spells being their "offensive" elements against the mobs.

    As for Deep Dungeon titles, we can have Deep Blue (assuming it isn't already a title) for PotD, and Heavenly Blue for HoH.
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  8. #108
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    Limited Jobs, Limited Races, Limited servers and now Limited Deep Dungeon!
    I think after a certain time BLU should simply be allowed in most content. Title timed exclusivity is over, let people have **fun** in the game if they want to.

    Stop hindering them.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  9. #109
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    Curisu's Avatar
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    Chryden Speakel
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    This. Hell, BLU could use the system differently for Eureka as well. Can't use the elemental wheel, but in return can learn BLU spells that can reduce elemental damage to them, with their own elemental attack spells being their "offensive" elements against the mobs.

    As for Deep Dungeon titles, we can have Deep Blue (assuming it isn't already a title) for PotD, and Heavenly Blue for HoH.
    Thats what im talking about.
    Even Eureka/BA with elemental wheel would not be OP as long they just disable wisdoms for BLU player.

    And to just give BLU a special title/archievement should not be to difficult. They did it already for other content.
    Even if BLU becomes stupidly broken in PotD/ HoH, so what? There is already a big gap between certain "balanced" jobs on level 60/70.
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  10. #110
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    You act as if some digital title has any actual value other than perceived worth. Worth that is only beholden to the person who earns it. No one else cares.

    Especially when it comes to content that is 4+ years old.

    BLU is perfect for that content. Simply don't allow Basic instinct to be used.
    *emphasis mine*

    That's the best suggestion I've read about how to keep BLU balanced for Deep Dungeons.
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