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  1. #491
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    I suggested something similar recently. Add an aetheryte plaza and a bunch of convenience NPCs, and don't design your towns so that everything you need is within two seconds walking distance and I'm willing to bet housing wards might become a bit more active... at least had this been done years ago. However, at this point people are too ingrained in the major cities to ever leave them. Limsa and Sharlayan in particular are both extremely convenient, and Gridania is always a popular zone.
    Just get popular vtubers to randomly visit houses. The wards will be full of ppl looking for them lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    I suggested something similar recently. Add an aetheryte plaza and a bunch of convenience NPCs, and don't design your towns so that everything you need is within two seconds walking distance and I'm willing to bet housing wards might become a bit more active... at least had this been done years ago. However, at this point people are too ingrained in the major cities to ever leave them. Limsa and Sharlayan in particular are both extremely convenient, and Gridania is always a popular zone.
    Housing wards already have all of this. The only things missing are Tome Vendors. Stick those in housing wards and the towns themselves will be empty.
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  3. #493
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    Instanced housing won’t necessarily mean people won’t be social so Yoshi has nothing to fear. Take eso for example (sorry I always give eso as example but in this topic it fits the customisation you mentioned as well), you have instanced housing, but depending on how large your home is, you can fit up to 24 people at once, not only that but you can visit anyone’s home from your party, friends list or guild, yes they won’t be random strangers on the street but hell, you can even do that if you want, we can gather them and take them in our house and yard and pretty much everywhere.
    Do not be sorry o,o those not only are pretty much what I had in mind for the most part, they're actually even better looking than anything PSO2 has available. Those look bloody gorgeous!

    And idk if the community feeling is a thing born from the game itself or from the way housing is designed. Because if ESO can do that, then FF14 disproves any need for large plaza-like systems for that to exist. Because, sure, it exists out there, and some people did meet friends that way, but it's not the one and only way.

    Advertising nightclubs can also be a thing either way We have the Fellowships, those NPCs that show you house tags... Really, there are plenty of ways to go about this. The system we have is really restrictive.

    And I know I keep harping on it, but given how tight some stuff is for larger races, those ESO areas would honestly feel much better than the cramped patios we have to work with.
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  4. #494
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Housing wards already have all of this. The only things missing are Tome Vendors. Stick those in housing wards and the towns themselves will be empty.
    Housing wards also lack the convenience even if they have a lot of this already. Limsa and Sharlayan put the marketboard literally *right there*. I very highly doubt Limsa and Gridania (and Ul'dah on certain servers) are going to take any sort of massive hit by adding some sort of tome vendor. People are very ingrained in these towns, Limsa in particular brings the "extremely convenient" factor. Worrying about expansion cities is silly though, because they naturally empty out after each expansion to where only a handful of players are there at a given time. Even Sharlayan, as ridiculously convenient as it is, I expect to see become ghosted once 7.0 drops, it's already happening mid-expansion.

    Anyways this is all beside the point, the entire point of my post was theorizing a way to achieve YoshiP's idea of populated housing wards.
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  5. #495
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    Point being I don't sit here and browse every single thread just to post contrarian shit because I don't have anything to prove. I'm glad they hire people like you.







    Maybe you guys can iron this out instead.

    Unfortunately, this isn't the case everywhere; and people aren't bidding on smalls because they're inadequate anyway. People shouldn't have to move to foreign data centers to get any size house, and they especially shouldn't have to do it for a small.
    Been following your response I wish more people where out spoken about having square continue to improve the lottery system instead of settling with it current forum.
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    I was always against the lottery idea. But too many people wanted it like that.
    It was clear that it's a bad idea, and that it will just end in a 'wait and lose' process for most of the players.
    It was also clear that very rich people will use this to come with multiple accounts to bet and hoard a lot of houses.

    The only solution I see at this point is to add 'additional' instanced housing. For example that people can build a house on their island.
    So everyone could take part in housing somehow, and a house in the wards would still be something special.
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    So you want to stay 24/7 clicking on a bill board with the hope that you might beat a bot or someone else that is right there? idk chief, that sound awful. The current system is not the best but a lot of better of spending your gaming hours in clicking a billboard.

    The solution is more wards

    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    I suggested something similar recently. Add an aetheryte plaza and a bunch of convenience NPCs, and don't design your towns so that everything you need is within two seconds walking distance and I'm willing to bet housing wards might become a bit more active... at least had this been done years ago. However, at this point people are too ingrained in the major cities to ever leave them. Limsa and Sharlayan in particular are both extremely convenient, and Gridania is always a popular zone.
    Making players walk and spend more than 5 seconds doing something?!!! are you nuts!!!one1111 /s

    I totally dig the idea of having more "walking" and actually travel through the game/towns. But sadly the current philosophy of the game is the exact opposite: the max amount of activities in the less time possible. And this is not on the devs, the majority of the game population always complain if they put something that cant be speedrunned in 1:45 seconds.
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  8. #498
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenaiChoppa View Post
    So you want to stay 24/7 clicking on a bill board with the hope that you might beat a bot or someone else that is right there? idk chief, that sound awful. The current system is not the best but a lot of better of spending your gaming hours in clicking a billboard.
    Agreed - and although this point has already been raised it's worth repeating anyway: some players (myself included) would never have sufficient time to indulge that nonsense due to R/L commitments.
    For all the pros and cons, the biggest 'pro' in favor of the lottery system is that it does at least give everyone a chance to win a house.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenaiChoppa View Post
    So you want to stay 24/7 clicking on a bill board with the hope that you might beat a bot or someone else that is right there? idk chief, that sound awful. The current system is not the best but a lot of better of spending your gaming hours in clicking a billboard.
    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Agreed - and although this point has already been raised it's worth repeating anyway: some players (myself included) would never have sufficient time to indulge that nonsense due to R/L commitments.
    For all the pros and cons, the biggest 'pro' in favor of the lottery system is that it does at least give everyone a chance to win a house.
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  10. #500
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Agreed - and although this point has already been raised it's worth repeating anyway: some players (myself included) would never have sufficient time to indulge that nonsense due to R/L commitments.
    For all the pros and cons, the biggest 'pro' in favor of the lottery system is that it does at least give everyone a chance to win a house.
    I'm just gonna double (or I guess triple) down on this just because some people that dislike lottery (even if it's perfectly justified) have this completely insane idea that spamming a placard for 8 hours was better or nice or fun or fair or some other mad idea. I've always said this: Both systems are coin tosses, but one at least lets you do literally ANYTHING ELSE with your life while the coin flip is happening other than mashing one button constantly in hopes that maybe you-- oh wait the bot got it again xdddd
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